Death of a Gettleman: JR is at best Carolina's Tragic Hero

[TheSpecialJuan]

Gettleman was a football man through and through. Over the course of his four years he made some excellent football decisions. Many more good ones than bad ones. But I trusted him and had full confidence he was doing what was best for the team long term. It sounds like his stubbornness and hubris made it difficult for everyone that dealt with him on a daily basis. Much like a flawed relationship, you put up with it for only so long before you say enough is enough and move on.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Well with dg out of a job, finally someone can go cut Mr. smith's grass.


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[grimesgoat]

I agree with Frash's sentiments.

To me, it was just really cool to have a GM that knew what the duck he was doing. He was going to draft elite talent, offer fair contract extensions, and finally this year we saw what he could do with a little spending cap money. He wasn't just competent - he was very good. 

I find it hard to believe he was let go for any mistakes he might have made. He was let go because he was a "Yankee"  He was honest, straightforward, and direct.  And that just doesn't play well in the gentle south. 

So we'll duck around for a few years and ride his coattails until the inevitable cap crisis occurs and we need to find someone competent again.

[frash.exe]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Well with dg out of a job, finally someone can go cut Mr. smith's grass.


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sweet maybe he can wave at smith through the window and smith can look at how the sun reflects off the rings on dave's fingers that smitty will never have ツ

[Montsta]

Sorry I just don't like how Hurney is coming in and even putting in his two cents worth. "Interim GM" should be more of an honorary, formality type title and he should keep his mouth shut.

Ron Rivera should be running things from a personnel perspective, and if we do really well then he can be a part of the new GM search next year. If he fails then it is on him and he is out and the next GM can hire his own staff. 

I just don't get how anybody can be ok with this fuging clown coming in and offering any opinion on anything. And the fact that he is going to become the permanent GM again makes me noxious.

There are Browns fans out there right now laughing at us for being such a dysfunctional franchise and it is kind of sad. 

[MHS831]

I would like to applaud the Willie Lowman literary allusion.  Arthur Miller is a favorite.

[top dawg]

On 7/20/2017 at 9:55 PM, Jay Roosevelt said:

Truth is, like most things, somewhere in the muddled middle.

Gettleman was not as great as many people are saying; not was Hurney as bad. People remember the highs and lows of each, but the average is what should count.

That said, in the long run, while they used different approaches to get there, the overall results were pretty similar when you consider everything.

Gettleman was better at finding talent in the middle rounds of the draft, but Hurney's 1st round success is hard to top. Gettleman was far superior at managing the cap, but Hurney was much better about addressing glaring holes on the roster via free agency.

Overall, if you look at the true core of this team, both deserve credit for key pieces. Hurney drafted Cam and Luke, and made the best trade in team history to acquire Greg Olsen. Gettleman drafted Kawann Short and Trai Turner, signed one of the best UDFA's in team history in Andrew Norwell, and we've still yet to see the best of James Bradberry, IMO.

Both deserve criticism (Hurney's cap management, bad draft trades; Gettleman's handling of the OT's in 2014 and Josh Norman last offseason) and praise (both added key pieces to our core) so to act like either was truly horrible or exceptional is just wrong and the result of major generalizations by many fans.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Before all of this happened, I would have thought that maybe five to ten people would have been on polar opposite extremes while most would take it in stride and be somewhere in the middle, but the tide of negativity coming from the Gettleman-is-a-god crowd has pervaded the Huddle (negatively IMHO). 

[TheRed]

Did I really just see a Panthers fan gloat to another fellow fan using rings the Giants players and coaches won on behalf of a talent scout that had no role in coaching or player acquisition when said championships were won?

Talk about a low point for our fanbase.

[frash.exe]

33 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Did I really just see a Panthers fan gloat to another fellow fan using rings the Giants players and coaches won on behalf of a talent scout that had no role in coaching or player acquisition when said championships were won?

Talk about a low point for our fanbase.

the last week has been a low point for the organization

[jim stone]

On 7/20/2017 at 9:21 PM, ickmule said:

In a nut shell he told all of us that JR is a $hitty owner and I couldn't agree more. For 22 years we've watched the same story line over and over. Nothing will change until there is a new head man on Mint St.  

All those freacin years it took him to fire Fox.  Anyway, "it is what it is".

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, frash.exe said:

the last week has been a low point for the organization

It has certainly been a low point for the Huddle.

[Jangler]

On 7/20/2017 at 9:54 PM, NanuqoftheNorth said:

This ^^^

Hurney plays checkers while Gettleman plays 3D Chess.

Hurney on your left...running theme....lol

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

A new study found that men with beards are more attractive. More great work from the university of Bob Seger
 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

It's Groundhog Day for the foreseeable future here in Panthers Land.