hurney vs gettleman from 2009 to 2016

[therealmjl]

Just now, GoobyPls said:

Hurney was idiot and so was Gettleman these last couple of drafts are the reason we can't have back to back winning seasons.

And you know for a fact Gettleman wouldn't have been 100% on picking Cam

He probably would have picked Marcel Dareus or Nick Fairley.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ducks

[chbright]

28 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

He picked him because the value was there and because DT's are a valuable commodity. It was a good pick. By that logic though, whey did Hurney pick Luke when we already had a starting MLB?

By your logic QB in round 1 or 2 would be a fine choice as they are the most valuable commodity. Yet we have a young guy under contract for years. Oh the hell everyone would raise if we did that.

[Car123]

11 minutes ago, Snake said:

Wrong, if integral you mean the started sure. Our super bowl defense was about 3 guys and they were all on the Dline. It was one of Morgan's best years of non brain damage too. 

He had 16 tackles in the Super Bowl and you're telling me he was just another guy...

He and Morgan were an elite combo at LB. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

36 minutes ago, ludwig51 said:

Last season was 100% his fault. 

Norman was acting like a prima donna.  He stated he wanted to be paid like a starting QB.  I would have loved for the Panthers to be able to keep him, but his contract expectations were unrealistic in the larger scheme of things.  The best case scenario was a one year deal until the rookies got some experience under their belts.

Gettleman gave Norman ample time to sign his one year deal and it never happened.

Norman had hired an amerture agent to play hardball expecting a big payday (an agent he promptly fired once things got out of hand).  After treating the process like some sort of a game with his public comments, Norman seemed surprised when Gettleman finally had enough of his antics and pulled the deal off the table.

Gettleman was unable to find a DB capable of filling Normans shoes and for that he is rightfully held accountable

Beyond that we get into the realm of speculation.

One thing we do know for sure is last season was not 100% Gettleman's fault.

The way he responded to Norman had a significant impact on the season's outcome, mostly during the first half when Bradberry (awesome draft pick by the way) was still making rookie mistakes.

Add to that, team injuries and bone headed decisions by the coaching staff (things Gettleman had no control over) and you'd get much closer to 100% of the reasons last season was a disappointing one.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

40 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

And you know for a fact Gettleman wouldn't have been 100% on picking Cam

I honestly don't know what Gettleman would have done under those circumstances and neither do you.

Based on what I've seen however, I do know one thing, a team with Gettleman as GM wouldn't have made the stupid moves Hurney did that led to the Panthers being the worst team in the league.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

DT are not a valuable commodity, where in the guidebook to have a successful team does it says you need 3 good DT? Gtfoh

Hurney picked Luke cause both Davis and Beason were coming off major and multiple injuries, and Luke was legitimately the best MLB in the country 2 maybe 3 years in a row. Comparing the Luke pick to Butler shows your lack of knowledge.

Right. Denver beat us in the SB because their D-line sucked. In fact, nobody has ever won a SB on the strength of their defense, right genius? Bottom line, it's ridiculous to say Gettleman wouldn't have drafted Cam when he has never had the chance to draft a QB and has never had the 1st overall pick and you know it. 

[Smithers]

2 hours ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

you're also comparing a GM who did it for 4 years compared to someone who did it for 11. 

 

He only looked at 4 years of draft history for both, beginning in 2009.  He didn't count Thomas Davis, Jonathan Stewart, Deangelo Williams, Ryan Kalil, Julius Peppers, Chris Gamble, Jordan Gross, John Beason, etc.  

[jbland]

2 hours ago, juliosantos said:

maybe if he wasnt so cheap when it came to tackle we would have won the superbowl but instead remmers got cam killed 

Had Hurney not left us so cap strapped he wouldn't have had to be cheap. If you remember two years ago we weren't in the same cap position we are today, thanks to Gman. 

[jbland]

3 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The only reason Carolina got Cam is because the Panthers were the worst team in the NFL the previous year.   That's the sort of results Marty Hurney delivers when he is put in charge.

And he almost traded the number one overall pick for the rights to draft Jimmy Clausen the previous draft. Imagine had that trade gone through... Hurney is a dumb ass who tried his hardest to ruin our franchise. Gman is an asshole who did what was necessary. 

I would take the asshole over the dumbass any day of the week. 

 

[ncfan]

• gettleman finds 
• star- good 
• kk-ELITE
• kb-good
• turner- ELITE
• shaq- good
• bradberry- good 

 
hurney 

• captain -good
• hardy -elite
• cam-elite
• luke -elite
• norman -elite

 
Gettleman found more consistent players then hurney but hurney found more elite players . take it as you want but id rather have the elite players then good players 

Star- #14 pick
KK- #44 pick
KB- #28 pick
Turner- #92 pick
Shaq- #25
Bradberry- #62



Cam- #1
Luke- #9
Norman- #143
Hardy- #175
Captain- #216

Everette Brown- #43, and future first
Armanti Edwards- #89 and #33 next year

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[rico6]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Hurney was idiot and so was Gettleman these last couple of drafts are the reason we can't have back to back winning seasons.

And you know for a fact Gettleman wouldn't have been 100% on picking Cam

Gettleman would've never drafted Cam. Even the nuttiest GMAN nuthugger would agree with that.

 

[rico6]

23 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Right. Denver beat us in the SB because their D-line sucked. In fact, nobody has ever won a SB on the strength of their defense, right genius? Bottom line, it's ridiculous to say Gettleman wouldn't have drafted Cam when he has never had the chance to draft a QB and has never had the 1st overall pick and you know it. 

Gettleman wouldn't have drafted Cam for the same reason it took him until year 4 of his tenure to FINALLY have an offense dedicated to upgrading the damn offense. He simply doesn't value the offensive side of the as much as he does with defense. Or maybe his inability to gather offensive talent is one of his weaker traits as a GM.

[Krovvy]

19 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Gettleman would've never drafted Cam. Even the nuttiest GMAN nuthugger would agree with that.

 

Remember the pregnant pause when Gettleman was asked about Cam being a franchise quarterback?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

26 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Gettleman would've never drafted Cam. Even the nuttiest GMAN nuthugger would agree with that.

It must be fun making sweeping declarations without a shred of tangible evidence to support them.