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Thomas Davis At BoA Stadium W/ CMC, Shaq, Short, & CJ


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11 hours ago, PanthersUnitedTheSequel said:

Dont worry, I have matured and learned greatly in my nearlt two year absence.

Is PU channeling Marty, or was Marty channeling PU today?  I'd have to check the time stamp to see which came first.

Either way, I don't trust either PU or Marty to have really changed until I see a year or two of evidence.

What a week.  DG canned.  Marty re-hired.  PU returns.

Please wake me up.  Please.  This HAS to be a nightmare.

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11 hours ago, sharkkiller said:

So because a reporter says she thinks good news may be coming, it is time to bash TD. Makes no sense at all, but go ahead.

Thank you for the sanity in this comment.  Much needed.

Come on folks, TD played in the SuperBowl with a broken arm.  Please don't forget it.  He epitomizes Keep Pounding.  TD is NOT the villain here.

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12 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I also saw this tweet earlier from TD...  any other year, it would seem just like the usual nicety from one to another...  but, considering what just happened, it screams of something more than the usual.

 

Kissing ass for that new contract

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6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

In all honesty, I have to defer to Montsta on the future of the GM position - I'm hoping for some happy medium between our previous two GMs to take the permanent job - a GM who isn't such an abrasive, hardass and one who isn't a complete baby pushover, all while having a thorough scouting background.

Agreed.

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6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

 You can play hardball without being an asshole and making national headlines out of contract negotiations.  You can win in negotiating without making everyone that loses feel like it's become a personal grudge for the rest of your lives.

I really think this is what it came down to... a clash of cultures.   Differing values and perspectives played a large role in Gettleman's time here.  

As the saying goes, when in Rome do as the Romans do.  

Gettleman was a fish out of water in the Panthers organization.

Bottom line:  JR owns the team and what he says goes.  A family approach was valued more by JR than the GM brought in to clean up the mess created by running the Panthers like a Mom and Pop organization.  Ultimately JR couldn't condone Gettleman's approach regardless of his abilities.

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9 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I Don't agree with you at all. 

 

Hurney wasn't even close to the least successful Panther GM. Your opinion on that speaks more about your age, or lack or memory.

What Davis has said, and will continue to do, has nothing to do with Gettleman's release.  That is just lazy thinking. 

I'm  also of the opinion, that knowing the reasoning for Gettleman's departure won't make it any easier. 

 

8 years of no playoffs... Facts are facts Jack and I wish my age was as young as you imply. Hurney's only success was of the back of George Seifert's drafting. Here we are 15 years later and he's doing the same thing again. 

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Just now, beastson said:

Something about this just rubs me wrong man

It's called losing a guy that was a winner for a guy who is a loser. It's the same as a state winning high school football coach getting canned because he didn't start the mayors son. 

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6 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I really think this is what it came down to... a clash of cultures.   Differing values and perspectives played a large role in Gettleman's time here.  

As the saying goes, when in Rome do as the Romans do.  

Gettleman was a fish out of water in the Panthers organization.

Bottom line:  JR owns the team and what he says goes.  A family approach was valued more by JR than the GM brought in to clean up the mess created by running the Panthers like a Mom and Pop organization.  Ultimately JR couldn't condone Gettleman's approach regardless of his abilities.

This is precisely how I feel about this.

 

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2 hours ago, Snake said:

8 years of no playoffs... Facts are facts Jack and I wish my age was as young as you imply. Hurney's only success was of the back of George Seifert's drafting. Here we are 15 years later and he's doing the same thing again. 

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Seifert, who also served as the team’s de facto general manager during his three years, did give the Panthers a great going-away present. His final draft was the best the Panthers ever had. He picked linebacker Dan Morgan, defensive tackle Kris Jenkins and wide receiver Steve Smith in the first three rounds of the 2001 draft. All eventually made the Pro Bowl, and Smith became the best player in team history.

That 2001 season was what undid Seifert and the Panthers. After the Panthers went a respectable 8-8 in his first year and a mildly disappointing 7-9 in the second, they won their first game of 2001 and then lost the final 15. That set what was an NFL record at the time. And that wasn’t a team with no talent – 20 players on the squad played in the 2003 Super Bowl under John Fox.  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article9092441.html

 

I honestly feel this year's team is as stacked as any in Panther's history and with a little luck stands a good chance of going all the way.

When it happens, many here will still refuse to give Gettleman the credit he is due.

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