8 years of no playoffs

[Snake]

9 minutes ago, ludwig51 said:

What real stars has Dave brought us other then kk? He brought us decent talent like star, kelvin and Shaq but other then that he was that great! Hurney at least hit big with stars in the first rd . Dave is better then hurney but he is so damn overrated 

It takes 3 years to evaluate talent. So Star and KK and AJ Klein all in one draft. That's 2 starters and a high quality backup out of 5 picks... 

[ncfan]

It takes 3 years to evaluate talent. So Star and KK and AJ Klein all in one draft. That's 2 starters and a high quality backup out of 5 picks... 

Draft 1: Star (stud NT)
KK (one of the best DL in all of football), Klein (one of the top backups in all of football, and when started played better than many other LBs in the division)

Draft 2: KB (looked like a emerging superstar year one, looked as good if not better than Mike Evans. Year 2 major knee injury, year 3 came off slow possibly from injury)
Ealy, was so so. Blew up and had a big super bowl game and you could say that game was better than Everrett Brown's (who we traded away a first for) whole career.
Turner, developed into one of the top interior OL in the league
Boston, solid ST player
Bene, graded out as the top rookie CB year 1. Year 2 had a Strong season pairing with Norman until he had a real bad injury breaking his leg. He was cut year 3 when he came into camp admitting he was out if shape and stayed that way and was cut after being toasted for 300+ by Julio.

Draft 3.
Shaq Thompson- has shown flashes and waiting to break out.
Funchess- underwhelmed but has shown flashes. Has shown more than Armanti's and Jarrett's career combined. And no less than Kerry Colbert's
Daryl Williams started off his career with injuries. But has shown flashes since. Started at RT and gave up zero sacks to Vic Beasley
Mayo, one of the league's top backups and filled in well when Luke went down.

Draft 4: his worst
Butler- fought injuries
Bradberry- graded out about as well as his successor Norman. Norman took almost 3 seasons to get to that level. Bradberry took half a season.


FA signing:
Michael Oher, graded out as one of the OTs in 2015 and pro bowl alternate. Had major major concusion problems that could end his career.
Kurt Coleman was a top the ints list in the league and rated one of the top safeties named a pro bowl alternate

People criticize the Kalil signing but refuse to look at the market.
Remmers got 5 years 30 mil 10.5 guaranteed
An old Okung who graded out as one of the lowest OTs in the league last year got 4 years 55 with 25 guaranteed
Kalil 5 for 55 and 13 guaranteed is a steal. He's still young named pro bowl rookie year but has fought injuries since. Meanwhile our new GM gave Stewart who also fought injuries top 5 RB money while already having a pro bowl RB also under contract with top 5 money.

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[GoobyPls]

46 minutes ago, ncfan said:

 

Draft 1: Star (stud NT)
KK (one of the best DL in all of football), Klein (one of the top backups in all of football, and when started played better than many other LBs in the division)

Draft 2: KB (looked like a emerging superstar year one, looked as good if not better than Mike Evans. Year 2 major knee injury, year 3 came off slow possibly from injury)
Ealy, was so so. Blew up and had a big super bowl game and you could say that game was better than Everrett Brown's (who we traded away a first for) whole career.
Turner, developed into one of the top interior OL in the league
Boston, solid ST player
Bene, graded out as the top rookie CB year 1. Year 2 had a Strong season pairing with Norman until he had a real bad injury breaking his leg. He was cut year 3 when he came into camp admitting he was out if shape and stayed that way and was cut after being toasted for 300+ by Julio.

Draft 3.
Shaq Thompson- has shown flashes and waiting to break out.
Funchess- underwhelmed but has shown flashes. Has shown more than Armanti's and Jarrett's career combined. And no less than Kerry Colbert's
Daryl Williams started off his career with injuries. But has shown flashes since. Started at RT and gave up zero sacks to Vic Beasley
Mayo, one of the league's top backups and filled in well when Luke went down.

Draft 4: his worst
Butler- fought injuries
Bradberry- graded out about as well as his successor Norman. Norman took almost 3 seasons to get to that level. Bradberry took half a season.


FA signing:
Michael Oher, graded out as one of the OTs in 2015 and pro bowl alternate. Had major major concusion problems that could end his career.
Kurt Coleman was a top the ints list in the league and rated one of the top safeties named a pro bowl alternate

People criticize the Kalil signing but refuse to look at the market.
Remmers got 5 years 30 mil 10.5 guaranteed
An old Okung who graded out as one of the lowest OTs in the league last year got 4 years 55 with 25 guaranteed
Kalil 5 for 55 and 13 guaranteed is a steal. He's still young named pro bowl rookie year but has fought injuries since. Meanwhile our new GM gave Stewart who also fought injuries top 5 RB money while already having a pro bowl RB also under contract with top 5 money.

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Ealy over Allen Robinson - terrible decision 

Shaq over Collins - horrible decision 

Funchess is a utter bust who couldn't even beat out Cotchery who no one wants.

drafting Butler period was a god awful decision. 

 

He also passed on guys like Crabtree, Kenny Britt, Mike Wallace for Cotchery, Avant and Ginn. 

 

The list goes on

 

[heel31ok]

22 hours ago, Snake said:

That's what Hurney gave us. We were out of the playoffs one year with Dave at the helm. Just let that sink in and now understand what lies ahead. 

 maybe RR had something to do with that and the core group Hurney brought in...

[Snake]

9 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

 maybe RR had something to do with that and the core group Hurney brought in...

Some how I really feel you became a fan in 2012. We had one of the worst talented teams in the league till Dave showed up. He built us from a few stars to a team. 

[heel31ok]

Just now, Snake said:

Some how I really feel you became a fan in 2012. We had one of the worst talented teams in the league till Dave showed up. He built us from a few stars to a team. 

nope been a fan from the beginning...the biggest talent came from hurney

[heel31ok]

the best thing gman did was draft Star and Short...

[Snake]

5 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

nope been a fan from the beginning...the biggest talent came from hurney

I think that statement right there proves my point. 

[heel31ok]

Just now, Snake said:

I think that statement right there proves my point. 

your point was i became a fan in 2012 which is not true so how does it prove the point...

[Snake]

4 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

the best thing gman did was draft Star and Short...

Yea let's forget about the whole put a super bowl team together while in cap hell and then get us out of said cap hell. 

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Plus Smitty was drafted by Seifert.

 

[heel31ok]

Just now, Snake said:

Yea let's forget about the whole put a super bowl team together while in cap hell and then get us out of said cap hell. 

Hurney put together a super bowl team...

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Seifert put together that Super Bowl team.

[heel31ok]

you are always a product of your predecessor ...same with Gman...it just shows how close we were already ... we turned things around with Cam and Luke...so hey Gman was good bargain basement guy and controlled cost well...