Yep. It's Happening: "#Panthers owner Jerry Richardson and Marty Hurney meeting today, league source said. Expected to be named interim GM."

[Ship]

48 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

I'd rather coach stay focused on managing in-game situations and evaluating his players. Wouldn't you? 

He already has helped GM during a season. I'm saying he can manage all personnel decisions on his own with input from his coaches. He already watches tryout players. The number cruncher can handle any other non-personnel matters. I don't think it's a stretch. The only benefit Hurney brings is letting Ron have another set of ears to bounce ideas off of. Our scouting dept can handle the draft prep.

I think having Hurney back will just confuse the "family" on what his role is and whether he'll stick around. 

[Saca312]

If I'm being frank and honest, it's a good move (for the situation we put ourselves in) as long as it's sure to be temporary.

Hurney knows the team pretty well as of now, and he has "experience." He should be strapped in what power he has, and I do think that he'd be the best option to help trim down the roster.

As long as we find a new GM that's decent, this won't be as bad as it looks.

IF Jerry starts thinking about keeping Hurney OR decides to bring in a yes-man GM, then it's time to panic.

[KillerKat]

fug this organization.

[bigdog10]

Damn. I'm betting the folks at hbo are pissed that we weren't selected for hard knocks this year. You couldnt script this insanity. 

[CRA]

36 minutes ago, Rags said:

I'm like. 99% sure you're a troll but I'm gonna go ahead and tell you why you're wrong.

 

Josh, Greg and Captain and CJ are the *only* gems he found that panned out for us on the roster. Even then players like Greg and Captain were undeniably talented, but fell due to various reasons (Greg character concerns and mother questions, Captain his size and his play fell off the season before he was drafted.). His "eye for talent" outside of that was all misses, not even depth players could be found in later rounds, let alone key talent that would allow us to regularly compete. For every Josh or Greg, there were drafts filled with players like Corvey Irvin, Sione Fua, Terell McClain, Amini Silatolu, Tony Fiametta. And these isn't even touching players he traded up for, like Everette Brown and the infamous Armanti Edwards. You mock Devin Funchess, but we gave up the next years second round pick, for a player we couldve acquired much later, for a small school QB-to-WR who only had 6 catches his entire career. And he was still our #4 WR! 

Gettleman had his misses, sure, but his eye for talent was undeniable. Trai, Kelvin, Bradberry, Shaq all have legit talent. He's also brought in key UDFA that have helped us, either by being a stop gap or becoming a key player. Names like Melvin White, Robert Lester, Corey Brown and Andrew Norwell come to mind.

The best udfa Gurney ever brought in was Matt fuging Moore.

Oh and did I forget to mention that Hurney wanted to trade into the first round of the 2010 draft to draft Jimmy Clausen? This is before the current CBA so not only would we have gave up future picks (probably the one we used to draft Cam, lol) we would've paid him a lot more garunteed money, and would've been stuck with him a loooot longer.

Hurney's "eye for talent" went beyond that of the draft, he sucked in FA too. Our stopgaps included the likes of Legadu Nane and Haruki Nakamura. Players that ended up starting or having to be key contributors because the rest of our roster was poo. Because Hurney did not know how to draft.

You mention names like Evan Mathis and Gary Barnidge, who eventually turned into very good players. For other teams. Gettleman brought those types of players in. To our team. Kurt Coleman, Mike Mitchell, Drayton Florence, Dean Edwards, Ted Ginn. These were stopgap players that improved our team. That we brought in cheap and helped us get better.

Gettleman had his problems, sure. But he was far and away better than Hurney. You're either blinded by your hatred of Gettleman, or you weren't around for the Hurney years if you think he's better.

That assessment does conveniently leave out the grand slams.  Regardless of draft position....few GM consistently hit homeruns early like Hurney.  Overall, people here dismiss it is just par for the course. 

I would say over Hurney's tenure no team was better in the actual first round. 

He deserves credit for getting so much right early when so many struggle there.  

As far as gems....a I would consider an All Pro and C in the NFL for a number of years a gem in the 3rd.

I got no overall issue with Hurney outside of contracts and salary cap.  All GMs have some sort of draft issues.  Overall I'll take Hurney's decision make drafting....but he doesn't need to be here then

[Silent Majority]

You can tell who knows jack poo about this franchise. Im no big fan of Hurney, but it was big cats call to give those big contracts. Calm tf down

[Raskle]

Please don't trade any of our future draft picks for aging veterans... please don't trade any of our future draft picks for aging veterans...please don't trade any of our future draft picks...

 

We just got Hurney'd! DOH!

[CatMan72]

But can you be positive Richardson won't wind up saying, "It's great having you around again, Marty. Why don't we just keep this going for a while?"

JR fired Hurney mid-season which was a pretty drastic move for this org. He must have felt VERY strongly at the time that Hurney wasn't the man for the job and I doubt those feelings have changed. Hurney is just the bedt option under "less than ideal" circumstances.

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[Rags]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

That assessment does conveniently leave out the grand slams.  Regardless of draft position....few GM consistently hit homeruns early like Hurney.  Overall, people here dismiss it is just par for the course. 

I would say over Hurney's tenure no team was better in the actual first round. 

He deserves credit for getting so much right early when so many struggle there.  

As far as gems....a I would consider an All Pro and C in the NFL for a number of years a gem in the 3rd.

I got no overall issue with Hurney outside of contracts and salary cap.  All GMs have some sort of draft issues.  Overall I'll take Hurney's decision make drafting....but he doesn't need to be here then

Oh yeah when it came to the first round Hurney was money 

But it takes more than the first round to be a relevant and consistent team. As GM he could not build a roster. The reason he overpaid to keep these players he drafted in the first is because without them we'd have nothing. That's what bad teams do.

[Krovvy]

4 minutes ago, Raskle said:

Please don't trade any of our future draft picks for aging veterans... please don't trade any of our future draft picks for aging veterans...please don't trade any of our future draft picks...

 

We just got Hurney'd! DOH!

The Panthers did trade a fourth round pick for a decrepit punter just last year.

[frash.exe]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

But can you be positive Richardson won't wind up saying, "It's great having you around again, Marty. Why don't we just keep this going for a while?"

not out of the realm of possibility since hurney had some sort of "arrangement" with the organization as his contract ran out at some point. a few years before he was walked out the door iirc.

[ClawOn]

Laughably bad decision. I will continue to root for my team,  but it's looking more and more like we're 5-10 years away. When ownership,  uh, changes. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Krovvy said:

The Panthers did trade a fourth round pick for a decrepit punter just last year.

Lee is good though 

[CRA]

Just now, ClawOn said:

Laughably bad decision. I will continue to root for my team,  but it's looking more and more like we're 5-10 years away. When ownership,  uh, changes. 

We just went 15-1 and to the Super Bowl the year before last.  I would say aren't far off.