Scott Fowler thinks fans need a real explanation for Gettleman's firing

[Krovvy]

24 minutes ago, ncfan said:

 

And if we don't hit it big these next 2 years then stuck with over the hill vets sucking up all the cap because of friends/loyalty and no room to sign FA. The young talent walks off because not enough in the pot to pass around.

 

Then were back to 2010 and drafting in the top 10. Maybe that'll be another stacked draft class with 75% of the top 10 will be in the hall. So we can go on a talk how Great the GM is that gets fired for poor record.......but hey he sure set up the next guy with that core franchise guy with the top pick. And he sure was a nice guy, almost a Santa to some older guys

 

 

Hope for Lambordi but history isn't in our favor.

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The Panthers were back to drafting top 10 this year.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Lamordi Trophy

Is the Lamordi Trophy awarded to the team that treats its players like pampered, spoiled children and overpays them to the point of Salary Cap Hell?

I'm thinking the Carolina Panthers already have a few of those in their trophy case, right?

[Ace_Aladdin]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

Is the Lamordi Trophy awarded to the team that treats its players like pampered, spoiled children and overpays them to the point of Salary Cap Hell?

I'm thinking the Carolina Panthers already have a few of those in their trophy case, right?

Nah its given to players and coaches who has the most points after 4th qtr . 

Are you doubting that this can't win the SB

are you going on record ? 

[pantherclaw]

There isn't a good answer. 

Not sure I even want to hear it. 

Richardson no longer wanted Gettleman out of the building. That's the bottom line, whether we like it or not. 

I don't hate Richardson for making the decision, but the move does NOT inspire confidence in our team. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

1 hour ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Will the Huddlers apologize to JR when this team is hoisting the Lamordi Trophy?

Will you apologize if this team hoists the Lombardi Trophy without Gary Barnidge?

[imminent rogaine]

2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

I'd like a concrete answer, but what do I know

I want 89 to retire a Panther *dodges beer cans from fully diapered adult males wearing Gettleman shirts*

I don't think its that that people love Gettleman personally... its what he represents which was building a sustainable and successful team. This is the first time in the history of the franchise that anyone could accuse the panthers of doing that. His firing signals to the fans, at least to me, that winning is not important. 

There has to be more to it than just his alleged dealings with TD. If JR loves TD so much, he can just write him a check, himself. I hope we can get more info but I'm not holding my breath for an official word from the panthers that means anything.

[tiger7_88]

2 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

I don't think its that that people love Gettleman personally... its what he represents which was building a sustainable and successful team. This is the first time in the history of the franchise that anyone could accuse the panthers of doing that. His firing signals to the fans, at least to me, that winning is not important. 

There has to be more to it than just his alleged dealings with TD. If JR loves TD so much, he can just write him a check, himself. I hope we can get more info but I'm not holding my breath for an official word from the panthers that means anything.

sanjay still doesn't understand about the "Lamordi Trophy"... lol

[imminent rogaine]

51 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

That's a lot IFs I think it's gonna be total opposite of that . We are going to win it big first of all.

we can lure FA for chance to win ring 

Salary Cap is going to Rise 

We have all our draft picks 

We will be successful 

 

Every team has all of those at their disposal....

Gettleman gave us a competitive advantage over most teams because he was able to scout talent, find value, and was able to maintain a cap friendly roster. We lose all of that.

32 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Nah its given to players and coaches who has the most points after 4th qtr . 

Are you doubting that this can't win the SB

are you going on record ? 

I don't think he is doubting that we can win A superbowl. I think its more of a worry about our longevity and sustainability. You have a to have a plan to replace folks after they leave for more money or you have to devote significant cap space to keep people around. DG has shown that he excels in handling cap issues and bringing in key pieces at a value to the team ( ie Every free agent he signed ever).

 

 

[imminent rogaine]

5 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

sanjay still doesn't understand about the "Lamordi Trophy"... lol

Nah man, after we win it once, wr can sign all future HOFers to vet min contracts because they will like us so much. Plus you are forgetting that we have the unique advantage of getting more cap space to work with and also getting to draft next year... only 31 other teams can say that. derp.

[Ship]

Yeah, I am and always will be a big Gettleman supporter. The 89 thing didn't really bother me, ultimately he was a detriment to the future growth of the team and to be honest, 89 had no problem diminishing others and talking poo but when DG hit him with his walking papers he's the one who feels slighted. DWill-- who gives a fug. Norman, I agree with DG in the overall principle of what happened-- JNo wasn't a long term Panther, but I would have kept him on the tag for the last year.

My biggest gripe was last offseason not adding enough people.

The biggest thing to me with Gettleman is that even though ATL and Tampa have been drafting better and adding talent, we also have a guy who knows how to find talent and because of that we'd stay competitive and hopefully keep running the south. Now, that whole idea is out the window. I'm not sure we can remain competitive against those teams, because they're still rolling and now we've fallen off. There's no telling whether this could snowball into a 49er's level disaster for our team.

There's no telling that even a more mild Hurney-Gettleman crossbreed will have the eye for talent DG did, will be as inclusive with the staff in player decisions as DG was, and be as willing to take shots on flyers like DG.

Last season I could sleep ok because I knew we had DG sitting in the film room in the middle of the night and we'd find a way to fix our problems. now I'm not sure.

[Happy Panther]

What if they just didn't get along and that was creating a toxic environment? Does JR need to explain this?

[SmartyHurney]

7 minutes ago, Ship said:

Yeah, I am and always will be a big Gettleman supporter. The 89 thing didn't really bother me, ultimately he was a detriment to the future growth of the team and to be honest, 89 had no problem diminishing others and talking poo but when DG hit him with his walking papers he's the one who feels slighted. DWill-- who gives a fug. Norman, I agree with DG in the overall principle of what happened-- JNo wasn't a long term Panther, but I would have kept him on the tag for the last year.

My biggest gripe was last offseason not adding enough people.

The biggest thing to me with Gettleman is that even though ATL and Tampa have been drafting better and adding talent, we also have a guy who knows how to find talent and because of that we'd stay competitive and hopefully keep running the south. Now, that whole idea is out the window. I'm not sure we can remain competitive against those teams, because they're still rolling and now we've fallen off. There's no telling whether this could snowball into a 49er's level disaster for our team.

There's no telling that even a more mild Hurney-Gettleman crossbreed will have the eye for talent DG did, will be as inclusive with the staff in player decisions as DG was, and be as willing to take shots on flyers like DG.

Last season I could sleep ok because I knew we had DG sitting in the film room in the middle of the night and we'd find a way to fix our problems. now I'm not sure.

What eye for talent? His draft picks have been bad to mediocre, and his free agents acquisitions are two misses for every hit. The team was built by Marty Hurney.

p r o v e m e w r o n g

[SOJA]

Best thing Scott Fowler has ever written

[Ace_Aladdin]

4 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Every team has all of those at their disposal....

Gettleman gave us a competitive advantage over most teams because he was able to scout talent, find value, and was able to maintain a cap friendly roster. We lose all of that.

I don't think he is doubting that we can win A superbowl. I think its more of a worry about our longevity and sustainability. You have a to have a plan to replace folks after they leave for more money or you have to devote significant cap space to keep people around. DG has shown that he excels in handling cap issues and bringing in key pieces at a value to the team ( ie Every free agent he signed ever).

 

 

DG was good GM but let's not act like he he was the premier standard I really don't believe he gave us that competitive advantage you speak of.  

 

The draft is the most economical /efficient  way of replacing older and more expensive talent long as Panthers don't give away draft picks we will be able to replace players on a yearly basis as needed 

Wether Ron or someone else takes on the role Panthers will be in mix of things long as we maintain the core players like Cam  & Luke who of course where scouted by Rivera. 

We need front office personnel that can help Ron manage the CAP. 

Look how much Bills have trusted McDermott who has never been head coach before.