Marty Hurney Did Not Deny Reports Of Him As Interim GM. Smiled During Interview.

[jbland]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

Evolution is such a pipe dream at this point.

Looks like we're going back to the dark ages of 2010 at this rate. Howard interviewed Marty Hurney, and here's what came out of it:

So, make of this what you will.

Considering what we went through towards the end of his time here I will be pissed and disheartened. Freaking rediculous to move forward while looking back.  

[NanuqoftheNorth]

8 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Thomas Davis does not need an extension, he's under contract for a year, and is 34 years old. Greg Olsen is under contract for two years and is 32 years old.

The immediate future and the actual future require balance, and right now it's the ''future future'' if you will that requires attention, Turner, Lotulelei, Norwell in that order. 

All the DG detractors can puff up all they want, and I like GO & TD as much as the next but truth is, Olsen is not likely to be this Olsen at age 34/35, and we all saw Davis look slow on several occasions this past season. 

If this firing was due to not paying guys entering the ENDS of their careers it's a bad move, Olsen signed a fair deal when he signed it. Now if he wants to hold out because he set records that's all well and good, but HE signed the deal three years ago to extend, as did Thomas Davis. 

Could they both still produce at 34, 35, 36 maybe, but it won't be at pro-Bowl levels, and it won't help the team moving forward into the players that succeed them, Shaq, and Olsen's replacement TBD still. 

This ^^^

Why is it so hard to understand?

Giving large contracts to players that are near the end of their careers might create a feel good moment for some, but it will result in the inability to retain core players just entering their prime playing years.

As most long term fans of this team should already be well aware, it is the recipe for mediocrity.

Teams that want to be competitive year in and year out, like the Patriots and Steelers, don't allow feelings of nostalgia for players cloud their decision making.

I'll always be grateful to JR for securing an NFL franchise for the Carolinas, but he would be well served at this point in his life to allow others to handle the day to day operations of the team.

[SetfreexX]

4 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

This is a common misconception about why players pursue contract "extensions". In truth, what both TD and Greg are looking for is to renegotiate those remaining years on their contracts in order to make their deals more front loaded because in their previous deals they did the same thing. This is the way the NFL does business. When players sign long contracts, they rarely intend to play the final years of those deals because they've front loaded their contracts to such an extent that they'd be playing at a bargain in the last years of the deal. It's not about playing longer, it's about being paid for the players they are now as opposed to being paid the number that the team needed in order to spread the cap hit over several years. It's very standard that Greg in particular should get an extension that pays him more. He has produced as the best TE in the NFL and he deserves to get paid for it. TD has a similar but weaker case, but he's still not compensated fairly for where he ranks among NFL linebackers. 

It's not that Greg and TD are saying they want to play for 5 more years, it's saying that they want an extension that will pay them fair market value as of 2017 and not of the day when they signed the contract that benefits the team more with each passing season. This may seem greedy for some, but it's incredibly standard for the NFL. 

You're missing the point, I never said it was about more years. I said they don't ''need'' extensions at this moment, they ''want'' them. 

If I'm a GM and two of my best players are under contract I have the leverage not the players, financially from a team / roster management stand-point as the GM it makes no sense to extend them, when three significantly younger core players are facing expiring deals. 

To me this is players knowing they're at the end looking for that final big pay day, and I love them both as players, and I respect their rights to approach it as a business and do what they feel is best; however I also respect the former GM's stance if it was to stay as is through this season, while looking to solidify the teams future, because right now the 'present' looks very good on paper. 

And whether they are under paid or not isn't the issue, THEY SIGNED THOSE DEALS and at the time they signed they felt it was fair. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Gettleman was doing what he was brought here to do... and he was fired for it.

[RoaringRiot]

24 minutes ago, beastson said:

You go forward in life, not backward. You go forward as a football organization, not backward.

I'm with you. But going forward incorrectly takes you even further back. I feel better about one year of Hurney than I do finding a permanent solution in 2-ish weeks. 

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i don't know how the dark lord in new england does it

That settles it! I'm switching to velveeta mac and cheese!

[thefuzz]

13 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

This is a common misconception about why players pursue contract "extensions". In truth, what both TD and Greg are looking for is to renegotiate those remaining years on their contracts in order to make their deals more front loaded because in their previous deals they did the same thing. This is the way the NFL does business. When players sign long contracts, they rarely intend to play the final years of those deals because they've front loaded their contracts to such an extent that they'd be playing at a bargain in the last years of the deal. It's not about playing longer, it's about being paid for the players they are now as opposed to being paid the number that the team needed in order to spread the cap hit over several years. It's very standard that Greg in particular should get an extension that pays him more. He has produced as the best TE in the NFL and he deserves to get paid for it. TD has a similar but weaker case, but he's still not compensated fairly for where he ranks among NFL linebackers. 

It's not that Greg and TD are saying they want to play for 5 more years, it's saying that they want an extension that will pay them fair market value as of 2017 and not of the day when they signed the contract that benefits the team more with each passing season. This may seem greedy for some, but it's incredibly standard for the NFL. 

If they don't intend to play out the deals...when they are in their 30's they need to take shorter deals.  You can't have it both ways.

[ecu88]

I thought this was a joke that DG was fired but now I am

I will still be a panther fan but a less invested fan. Carolina's professional teams strive for mediocrity.

[RoaringRiot]

1 hour ago, Montsta said:

 

Hurney can definitely fug poo up as interim right now. 

How exactly? 

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, RoaringRiot said:

How exactly? 

Big money deal to Olsen and TD...not leaving us enough to extend Norwell, Trai, or Star?

That's about the best way.

[RoaringRiot]

8 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Big money deal to Olsen and TD...not leaving us enough to extend Norwell, Trai, or Star?

That's about the best way.

It was already said today that Rob Rogers and JR along with a "committee" are handling (and have been) contracts. Any interim GM, whether it's Hurney or someone else, won't have free rein on any contracts. This is a non-issue. 

Edit: non issue as far as an interim GM is concerned. The organization may still put us in this situation however. 

[thefuzz]

3 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

It was already said today that Rob Rogers and JR along with a "committee" are handling (and have been) contracts. Any interim GM, whether it's Hurney or someone else, won't have free rein on any contracts. This is a non-issue. 

Edit: non issue as far as an interim GM is concerned. The organization may still put us in this situation however. 

Oh, I fully expect JR to hand down a really stupid deal, but whatever.

All I know, is that the contracts got much more palatable under DG vs. MH, in both structure, and size.  I sincerely hope we don't go back to the old way....although I fully expect us to.

[RoaringRiot]

7 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Oh, I fully expect JR to hand down a really stupid deal, but whatever.

All I know, is that the contracts got much more palatable under DG vs. MH, in both structure, and size.  I sincerely hope we don't go back to the old way....although I fully expect us to.

I expect the contracts to happen, but we're not going to be able to blame them on any interim GM - it won't be their call. 

[Clicheking]

I'm swear to fuggin God if this happens I'm just going to throw my hands up