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Marty Hurney Did Not Deny Reports Of Him As Interim GM. Smiled During Interview.


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Who would you guys rather have for the next five years? 

Trai, Norwell, Star

or 

Olsen and TD 

 

You laugh but if we re-sign Olsen and TD to big deals you can kiss at least two of those top three goodbye. Probably Trai and Star which is terrible because those are the most important two for our future. 

People forget how young Trai is and how integral Star is for us. Star doesn't get stats but he allows Luke to go to work. When he got hurt versus Seattle in the playoffs in our 7-8-1 season our defense immediately went to poo. 

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Loyalty has a price, we won't see the cost till a few years from now when everyone will look back and say......huh maybe it wasn't a good idea to pay aging vets instead of locking up a young core and allowing young players to blossom (Shaq)

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8 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Who would you guys rather have for the next five years? 

Trai, Norwell, Star

or 

Olsen and TD 

 

You laugh but if we re-sign Olsen and TD to big deals you can kiss at least two of those top three goodbye. Probably Trai and Star which is terrible because those are the most important two for our future. 

People forget how young Trai is and how integral Star is for us. Star doesn't get stats but he allows Luke to go to work. When he got hurt versus Seattle in the playoffs in our 7-8-1 season our defense immediately went to poo. 

To be fair I don't think we keep all three of those guys either way. 

Might also be fair to ask if we can keep two with resigning Olsen and TD though. 

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Thomas Davis does not need an extension, he's under contract for a year, and is 34 years old. Greg Olsen is under contract for two years and is 32 years old.

The immediate future and the actual future require balance, and right now it's the ''future future'' if you will that requires attention, Turner, Lotulelei, Norwell in that order. 

All the DG detractors can puff up all they want, and I like GO & TD as much as the next but truth is, Olsen is not likely to be this Olsen at age 34/35, and we all saw Davis look slow on several occasions this past season. 

If this firing was due to not paying guys entering the ENDS of their careers it's a bad move, Olsen signed a fair deal when he signed it. Now if he wants to hold out because he set records that's all well and good, but HE signed the deal three years ago to extend, as did Thomas Davis. 

Could they both still produce at 34, 35, 36 maybe, but it won't be at pro-Bowl levels, and it won't help the team moving forward into the players that succeed them, Shaq, and Olsen's replacement TBD still. 

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35 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

I don't think so, man....

You think that...but I could totally see him keeping Hurney too.  He trusted Ernie's opinion on Gettleman, clearly that now leaves a bad taste in his mouth.  Why trust anyone on the outside again if they don't know how to treat these players as 'family', and look who is probably the most beloved GM by the players, ole' Hurney.  If we do well this season despite the turmoil I could totally see him saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' and keep Hurney.

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22 minutes ago, Dunn said:

You think that...but I could totally see him keeping Hurney too.  He trusted Ernie's opinion on Gettleman, clearly that now leaves a bad taste in his mouth.  Why trust anyone on the outside again if they don't know how to treat these players as 'family', and look who is probably the most beloved GM by the players, ole' Hurney.  If we do well this season despite the turmoil I could totally see him saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' and keep Hurney.

My assumption....if they go with any interim GM they will be very clear that it's a temporary solution while they're sourcing a long-term candidate. If Hurney is indeed the interim GM, it's going to take quite a bit of PR spin to make people "ok" with it. Making sure the fans understand it's a short-term solution will be key. 

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1 hour ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i don't know how the dark lord in new england does it

It's called a real owner who wants to win. JR has shown time and time again he doesn't give a poo about winning. I really feel sorry for PSL owners. They will be paying 1000s now knowing there is no hope in sight. 

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32 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Thomas Davis does not need an extension, he's under contract for a year, and is 34 years old. Greg Olsen is under contract for two years and is 32 years old.

The immediate future and the actual future require balance, and right now it's the ''future future'' if you will that requires attention, Turner, Lotulelei, Norwell in that order. 

All the DG detractors can puff up all they want, and I like GO & TD as much as the next but truth is, Olsen is not likely to be this Olsen at age 34/35, and we all saw Davis look slow on several occasions this past season. 

If this firing was due to not paying guys entering the ENDS of their careers it's a bad move, Olsen signed a fair deal when he signed it. Now if he wants to hold out because he set records that's all well and good, but HE signed the deal three years ago to extend, as did Thomas Davis. 

Could they both still produce at 34, 35, 36 maybe, but it won't be at pro-Bowl levels, and it won't help the team moving forward into the players that succeed them, Shaq, and Olsen's replacement TBD still. 

Honestly, I would think about it with Olsen but there is no reason whatsoever to be in a hurry about it when the guy still has two years on his deal.

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33 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Thomas Davis does not need an extension, he's under contract for a year, and is 34 years old. Greg Olsen is under contract for two years and is 32 years old.

The immediate future and the actual future require balance, and right now it's the ''future future'' if you will that requires attention, Turner, Lotulelei, Norwell in that order. 

All the DG detractors can puff up all they want, and I like GO & TD as much as the next but truth is, Olsen is not likely to be this Olsen at age 34/35, and we all saw Davis look slow on several occasions this past season. 

If this firing was due to not paying guys entering the ENDS of their careers it's a bad move, Olsen signed a fair deal when he signed it. Now if he wants to hold out because he set records that's all well and good, but HE signed the deal three years ago to extend, as did Thomas Davis. 

Could they both still produce at 34, 35, 36 maybe, but it won't be at pro-Bowl levels, and it won't help the team moving forward into the players that succeed them, Shaq, and Olsen's replacement TBD still. 

This is a common misconception about why players pursue contract "extensions". In truth, what both TD and Greg are looking for is to renegotiate those remaining years on their contracts in order to make their deals more front loaded because in their previous deals they did the same thing. This is the way the NFL does business. When players sign long contracts, they rarely intend to play the final years of those deals because they've front loaded their contracts to such an extent that they'd be playing at a bargain in the last years of the deal. It's not about playing longer, it's about being paid for the players they are now as opposed to being paid the number that the team needed in order to spread the cap hit over several years. It's very standard that Greg in particular should get an extension that pays him more. He has produced as the best TE in the NFL and he deserves to get paid for it. TD has a similar but weaker case, but he's still not compensated fairly for where he ranks among NFL linebackers. 

It's not that Greg and TD are saying they want to play for 5 more years, it's saying that they want an extension that will pay them fair market value as of 2017 and not of the day when they signed the contract that benefits the team more with each passing season. This may seem greedy for some, but it's incredibly standard for the NFL. 

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