Butler Making His Presence Felt

[csx]

14 hours ago, Saca312 said:

That's against college level talent, and slightly different from a 4-3 NT. The role star takes is taking hold of space and moving the gaps against 2 or more o-linemen.

One critique against Butler is how poorly he handles double teams. From what I've watched, I've seen him pushed back on most of them. That's why he could not possibly fill that role. 

I wouldn't speak in such absolutes. To say he can't possibly is absurd. I'm not comparing him to Star at this point but as has been pointed out hes shown he has the ability to but has been inconsistent. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

15 minutes ago, csx said:

I wouldn't speak in such absolutes. To say he can't possibly is absurd. I'm not comparing him to Star at this point but as has been pointed out hes shown he has the ability to but has been inconsistent. 

Yeah, and it's certainly not a size issue because he's just as big as Star and even more athletic.

[csx]

2 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Yeah, and it's certainly not a size issue because he's just as big as Star and even more athletic.

Bigger. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

5 minutes ago, csx said:

Bigger. 

You're right. Butler has about 10-15lbs on Star and KK.

[Adb6368]

16 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Butler's a 3 tech, not a NT. He won't be able to fill in Star's role at all.

Kyle Love could tbh, to a lesser degree. But not Butler.

Kyle Love is 30. I would not want to lean on him for much more than giving a true starter a rest. He's performed well but you can't expect him to consistently be able to push (or even hold) a pile for more than a few plays at a time. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Would be awesome if Butler could be a Kris Jenkins type DT (before Kris got fat and destoyed his knees) who can play both the nose and the three technique.

[UpstatePanther]

On 7/11/2017 at 3:14 PM, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I'm just glad Panthers.com put this up because everybody has been focusing on the offense but this defense has a chance to be better than the SB team too. This should be a solid unit at all three levels.

im with ya. i think my lenses are tinted electric blue but even some Panther fans are selling this defense short due to age and depth issues (and those are legit concerns) but man if people can stay healthy and our non-starters can even slightly outperform expectations, youre gonna be right about that "better than the SB team" statement