ESPN: How will Christian McCaffrey change how teams prepare for Panthers?

[brandon_87]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

So all the Falcons could come up with is "oh hur dur we won't change much because our linebackers r supah fast," they got reality coming for them real quick.

Option football is something you have to be ready for. Panthers have potential to create mismatches and misdirection on every play. Just because you have "supa fast linebackers" doesn't mean you can be fine with just sitting there and doing the same thing with the Panthers offense. It's effectively a game of chess where Panthers put you in check right before the snap. 

I probably will sound like a Shula apologist, but he never had the tools like he does this year that actually suit well for a short passing game. Considering that, I think I could forgive him a little bit for not being able to do much last year or years before. However, now he has the weapons to not only add some short passes, but weapons that will thrive with option football.

Shula has no excuses now if this offense falls flat.

These defensive coordinators have a lot more on their plate than ever. If they don't try to change much, they're gonna be in a lot of trouble.

Did you happen to look at where his offenses of the past have ranked? What we see from him is the same poo he's ran his whole career of OC, always mediocre. Thinking he will be able to utilize Samuel and McCaffery properly is like squeezing oranges and hoping for Apple juice.  You can't say he never had these tools without looking back at his play calling over his time here... countless 3rd and short and he dials up a play action fade route that has another receiver running a corner route right into the fade... the plays are garbage, has nothing to do with who's running it. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

Only retards think shula sucks

 

 

#1 offense 2015

I wouldn't call anybody a retard but I definitely think that some are making Shula out to be a scapegoat because they can't stand any criticism of Cam. TBH, Shula is not the best in game play caller but the offense itself is sound and Cam can audible out of bad plays, if that's the only problem.

[Shocker]

Dont call me Carl Sagan just yet but is it so difficult to toss the ball over to the greatest star in the NFL galaxy?  Billions of fans want to know.  CMC man!

[Woodie]

3 hours ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I wouldn't call anybody a retard but I definitely think that some are making Shula out to be a scapegoat because they can't stand any criticism of Cam. TBH, Shula is not the best in game play caller but the offense itself is sound and Cam can audible out of bad plays, if that's the only problem.

Yeah, this is what I think most miss.  The design of our offense is fine and actually gets respect if you pay attention to what others within the league say about it.  The problem is that Shula struggles with situational play calling and adapting to adversity.  But hopefully now that he'll have a full arsenal of weapons, we'll see significant improvement in these areas. 

 

[Ricky Spanish]

3 pages and no link? For shame huddle.

[rico6]

23 hours ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

What does that have to do with it? Whether he's a greatest DC or not, he still watches hours and hours of the "all 22 film" on all NFL offenses and he knows a hell of a lot more than you do about how ours compares to the rest of the NFL.

Hogs, you reaching mayne

[Navy_football]

On 6/29/2017 at 11:49 PM, Woodie said:

Yeah, this is what I think most miss.  The design of our offense is fine and actually gets respect if you pay attention to what others within the league say about it.  The problem is that Shula struggles with situational play calling and adapting to adversity.  But hopefully now that he'll have a full arsenal of weapons, we'll see significant improvement in these areas. 

 

Not the play calling. The play design and route combinations are usually lacking. Towards the end of the season, we did start to see improvements. Hopefully that carries over.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

18 hours ago, rico6 said:

Hogs, you reaching mayne

Really? Do you actually believe all of these fans are smarter than ANY NFL coach when it comes of judging the Panthers offense agains other NFL offenses? The fact is, there are quite a few NFL teams who have copied some of our zone read stuff, which was put in specifically for Cam Newton. NFL teams don't copy plays that don't work.

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

Shula fans love to fight strawmen sometimes. No serious person is arguing that he's a football illiterate who can't design plays or can't cope in the modern world because he's got dementia and thinks "Super Bowl Shuffle" is still in the charts. Pretty much everyone knows that he's an expert professional, born and raised in the game, who's forgotten more than 98% of webboard posters will every know. Duh.

What people ARE pointing out is that there are 31 other expert professionals across the league in the opposing DC positions, and too many of them got one over on Shula last year. They figured out how to win despite problems of their own. Everyone, everywhere, faces execution issues and areas of talent deficit. You either find a way to "win despite" or you don't. In the past, Shula has won despite, and last year he didn't. The game is being cleverer and more cunning than the guy across from you - not knowing more about football than your critics in the fanbase or designing plays that others copy. 

[coralreefer_1]

Gonna go out on a limb and say nothing changes until they see how we actually USE him. A genius OC might make a splash with him until halfway through the season before other teams pick up and adjust. I wont get on the Shula hate train but I will say that we dont exactly have that " genius" with even our static players...much less our dynamic ones in terms of scheming. MC ( and i think more that likely, Samual) will be the attention grabber and get their props on the mic, but at the end of the day none of them matters until what they do ( and more importantly) can the guys in the booth do with them) happens. Talent is only as good at the playcallers and play designers....just like the best steak in the world can be ruined by a redneck grill at a tailgate. Takes two to tango. Lets hope our grill can work with the " steak", and the powers that be know when to turn/take off

[Davidson Deac II]

On 6/29/2017 at 11:49 PM, Woodie said:

Yeah, this is what I think most miss.  The design of our offense is fine and actually gets respect if you pay attention to what others within the league say about it.  The problem is that Shula struggles with situational play calling and adapting to adversity.  But hopefully now that he'll have a full arsenal of weapons, we'll see significant improvement in these areas. 

 

If you look around the NFL, I would bet that 70 to 80 percent of the fan bases would feel the same way about their own offensive coordinators.  I know that I have been coming to this board for more than 10 years, and the same or similar sentiments have been expressed about virtually every offensive coordinator we have had.  I also see the same thing on college boards I visit.  The offensive coordinator probably gets more flack from fans than any other assistant coach, and perhaps more than the head coach. 

I don't know if Shula deserves the blame he gets, but I do know that if he is fired, a large percentage of our fans will likely not be happy with whomever replaces him.  

[Woodie]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If you look around the NFL, I would bet that 70 to 80 percent of the fan bases would feel the same way about their own offensive coordinators.  I know that I have been coming to this board for more than 10 years, and the same or similar sentiments have been expressed about virtually every offensive coordinator we have had.  I also see the same thing on college boards I visit.  The offensive coordinator probably gets more flack from fans than any other assistant coach, and perhaps more than the head coach. 

I don't know if Shula deserves the blame he gets, but I do know that if he is fired, a large percentage of our fans will likely not be happy with whomever replaces him.  

Absolutely.  That's why I don't think he deserves as much grief as he gets. 

I will say, though, that the difference between the great, good, and poor OC's is usually how good they are at this aspect.  The great OC's have a knack for calling the right play at the right time and putting defenses on their heels, and they can also adjust to whatever the defense is doing.  The good OC's, which is where I see Shula, are a little more inconsistent.  They usually have a decent scheme (but it's often static), and sometimes their play calling can seem magical, but other times it's "WTF was that."  But it's the WTF calls that fans remember, and why so many OC's tend to get a lot of flack.  

To me, a big difference is that the great OC's can be successful with whomever they have, while the good ones usually need all or most of the pieces.  The bad ones are just over their heads, and no scheme or player is going to change that.  To be honest, most OC's fall in the middle category, but the successful ones are simply lucky enough to be on a team that gave them the parts they needed.  Shula, IMO, has been given some of the parts (and a great one in Cam), but other parts that he needs have been missing since he took over.  This is the first year that he's actually had a full arsenal, so we should get a legitimate look at how good of an OC he really is...no excuses.  

[RumHam]

Imma tell you whart, if and when Shula gets done running two dive plays and one reverse per game, we need someone like chip kelly in here. Honestly, and i'd hate to say it as much as i hate it, but Dabo Swinney, even though he's financially set at clampsun, or someone from the offense with that creativity would be good. Shula with these weapons is like being able to fug the porn star of your choice but you have a micropenis. He hasn't changed in 20 years, why would anyone think he would now. DER HAY LOOK COACH I CALL A REVURSE I DO GOOD RITE? We have everything in place to make the run and have the hangover behind us. If Kalil clicks at left tackle and the defense can stay off the field and we go back to making long ass drives, we are a shoe-in. It really all falls on Shula's shoulder. If we lay an egg against San Fran, they need to cut the throat already and send Shula to coach Tulsa or some poo.