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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000817355/article/qb-index-how-do-top-100-qbs-of-2017-stack-up

few highlights (with my emphasis in bold italics cus fug NFL.com's formatting):

Famous Jameis:

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13) Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Top 100 ranking: No. 57

He's going to take his shots. Now that he's surrounded by a starting five of diverse pass catchers, including free agent DeSean Jackson and rookie tight end O.J. Howard, those shots should connect more.

Winston's hyper-aggressive nature will cost him some games and make him the subject of some sky is falling sports columns, because when things go south for him, he can start to look Delhommian. Winston misses too many routine throws, but he also routinely completes the improbable. He has the traits that are toughest to teach, especially with regard to his incredible pocket movement and anticipation.

Bucs coach Dirk Koetter put a lot on Winston's plate early to get him ready for a season like this, when he can sling the ball at will to a supporting cast that looks just right.

OUCH. Delhommian?! thats low Rosenthal! lol

 

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10) Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers

Top 100 ranking: No. 44

Here's how Newton's ranking in my year-end QB Indices shook out over the last four years: 16, 1, 14, 8. Carolina's win totals from the last four years: six, 15, seven, 12. Even the most ardent Cam believers (ahem) can admit the man is streaky. This is true in games, in seasons, even in fashion.

His supporting cast isn't always an asset. There were times last year when the Panthers played slowly and predictably, like an NBA offense still posting up big men while the rest of the league rained down threes around them.

I believe Newton can evolve coming off shoulder surgery, because he's done it before, and because there's never been a quarterback quite like him. (That, and it's an odd-numbered year.)

Fair. Here's to hoping the odd-numbered year comment is a prophesy-of-sorts.

 

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5) Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons

Top 100 ranking: Top 10

Ryan was one play away from being the first quarterback this century to win MVP and the Super Bowl in the same season, immortalized by That Throw and Catch to Julio Jones. One play away from going down in the record books with better postseason numbers than his bananas regular season. It's just hard to pick what that one play was, because there are so many to choose from.

Ryan's task this season is to shake off the knowledge of how close he was and show the Falcons offense can still rank among the game's best with former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan now coaching the 49ers. In four seasons of grading every quarterback start, 2016 was the first year in which Ryan finished better than ninth in my year-end rankings. To be considered at the level of Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, Ryan still has to show he can perform at that level every season.

L.O.L. just lol. yeah Matt Ryan is an elite QB. riiiiiiiiiiight. #systemQB

 

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3) Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints

Top 100 ranking: No. 16

If not for Tom Brady, there would be countless articles written this offseason about Drew Brees' improbable victories against Father Time.

The 38-year-old Brees has led the NFL in passing yards in five of the past six seasons. The articles about his diminishing arm strength started to appear around 2012, yet the numbers definitively show Brees is among the very best vertical passers every single season.

The Saints seem to ponder drafting Brees' replacement every year, but he's still going strong a decade removed from the Dolphins passing on him because of his shoulder surgery. Brees must think about how life would be different in an organization that had any clue how to field a defense. Last season's Saints team was the third that Brees has led to a top-three finish in points scored without even managing a winning record. Brees can't stay this good forever, but he remains at the top of the game.

I actually feel something resembling pity for @saints4lifeagain. Brees is done soon. They havent seen the beginning of terrible yet.

 

 

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Jameis could honestly be a top 5 QB because his mechanics and pocket movement is insane. His accuracy is so bad he barely makes the top 15 of my list because of it. 

Matt Ryan's a system QB. Already went over that here and why he may be in for a regression:

Simply put, his decision making is going to be put to the test, and his arm is a legitimate concern. Without Shanahan giving him easy plays all the time, I don't think it'll be as easy for Matt Ryan.

Drew Brees still makes magic year after year. Don't have much to knock on him. One of the NFL's most consistently good QBs.

Cam Newton's gonna be real good. The NFL better watch out.

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19 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Cam Newton's gonna be real good. The NFL better watch out.

Saca just to put a worm in your brain, one of your patented write-ups on Cam Newton and his prospects for the upcoming season would probably go over really well with the Huddle, and be very much appreciated. #justsaying ;)

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4 minutes ago, UpstatePanther said:

Saca just to put a worm in your brain, one of your patented write-ups on Cam Newton and his prospects for the upcoming season would probably go over really well with the Huddle, and be very much appreciated. #justsaying ;)

Keep your eyes out. This guy's a good QB evaluator and shows a lot of film to back his statements. I'll probably reference his article when it comes out:

 

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23 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Jameis could honestly be a top 5 QB because his mechanics and pocket movement is insane. His accuracy is so bad he barely makes the top 15 of my list because of it. 

Matt Ryan's a system QB. Already went over that here and why he may be in for a regression:

Simply put, his decision making is going to be put to the test, and his arm is a legitimate concern. Without Shanahan giving him easy plays all the time, I don't think it'll be as easy for Matt Ryan.

Drew Brees still makes magic year after year. Don't have much to knock on him. One of the NFL's most consistently good QBs.

Cam Newton's gonna be real good. The NFL better watch out.

Yeah Matt Ryan led the Falcons to a 56-22 record in his first 5 years and went to 3 pro bowls because he is a system QB. 5 straight winning seasons (Falcons never had back to back winning season in their history before this) And here we go again with a couple underthrown balls shows that Matt Ryan arm is declining. Absolutely crazy imo. 

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1 hour ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I would like to see Cam be more consistent. The guy can make a throw that no other QB in the league can make on one play and then throw it into the ground on another one. It's frustrating sometimes. I'm confident this will be a great season though.

I hear a lot of comparisons between Cam and Brett Farve as "gunslingers" and I think that's the biggest commonality they share. The tendency to make throws no other QB can one play, and then derpy derpedly throw it into the ground (or in Cam's case 6ft above the receiver's head) the next play. I love me some Cam. He's my 2nd favorite player after TD. But I've come to accept that he'll always have some derpy plays.

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Unlike Delhomme, Winston can't blame Tommy John for being bad. Just saying.

Like I said before, it annoys me how people disregard our O-line's fragility when evaluating Cam. Yes, he can be streaky at times but when there's stability within the Uglies, he can put up a performance like 2015.

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5 hours ago, UpstatePanther said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000817355/article/qb-index-how-do-top-100-qbs-of-2017-stack-up

few highlights (with my emphasis in bold italics cus fug NFL.com's formatting):

Famous Jameis:

OUCH. Delhommian?! thats low Rosenthal! lol

 

Superman:

Fair. Here's to hoping the odd-numbered year comment is a prophesy-of-sorts.

 

He-Who-Blew-The-25pt-Lead:

L.O.L. just lol. yeah Matt Ryan is an elite QB. riiiiiiiiiiight. #systemQB

 

The Mole:

I actually feel something resembling pity for @saints4lifeagain. Brees is done soon. They havent seen the beginning of terrible yet.

 

 

Discuss, Huddle brethren!

Brees>>>>>Cam.

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14 hours ago, UpstatePanther said:

Saca just to put a worm in your brain, one of your patented write-ups on Cam Newton and his prospects for the upcoming season would probably go over really well with the Huddle, and be very much appreciated. #justsaying ;)

Na, we're good.  Really content on not seeing another "fluff" piece on here.  

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