4-5 Situation - Howard, Marvin, Zeller, Kaminsky

[davos]

Our most common lineup last year was Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Zeller

2. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Frank

3. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Hibbert

4. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Frank-Zeller

5. Kemba-Bellinelli-Batum-Marvin-Zeller

6. Kemba-Bellinelli-Batum-Frank-Zeller

Now you have to imagine if we're seeing a long term fit with Zeller and Frank, but they'll have to continue to progress and gain minutes.  HOWEVER, we just landed Dwight Howard and we used Marvin to his max capacity last season.  

So the dilemma I see is: We've got two big contracts in Howard and Marvin with two promising young guys in Kaminsky and Zeller..but is someone is going to be rendered expendable here? 

 

Would we be better off relieving ourselves of Marvin?  Or maybe trading Cody? Or does this seem like a good group to create lineups around?  

In general--I just think we're kind of sitting with players like Marvin, Lamb, and MKG right now.  It's not that they're awful but they are just sucking up minutes, cap, or both and don't fit long term.   

[yasuhara2241]

8 hours ago, davos said:

Our most common lineup last year was Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Zeller

2. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Frank

3. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Marvin-Hibbert

4. Kemba-Batum-MKG-Frank-Zeller

5. Kemba-Bellinelli-Batum-Marvin-Zeller

6. Kemba-Bellinelli-Batum-Frank-Zeller

Now you have to imagine if we're seeing a long term fit with Zeller and Frank, but they'll have to continue to progress and gain minutes.  HOWEVER, we just landed Dwight Howard and we used Marvin to his max capacity last season.  

So the dilemma I see is: We've got two big contracts in Howard and Marvin with two promising young guys in Kaminsky and Zeller..but is someone is going to be rendered expendable here? 

 

Would we be better off relieving ourselves of Marvin?  Or maybe trading Cody? Or does this seem like a good group to create lineups around?  

In general--I just think we're kind of sitting with players like Marvin, Lamb, and MKG right now.  It's not that they're awful but they are just sucking up minutes, cap, or both and don't fit long term.   

We just resigned Cody until 2020-21 and Frank will be on his rookie contract until 19-20. I think we don't need to worry about this at all. The biggest issue we have will be Kemba, but since Kemba and Dwight expire at the same time we will have plenty of money. That Howard trade really helped free up Miles 12m at the right time. 

Now, as far as fit is concerned. Zeller just makes everybody look better. He will help out the second unit tremendously. I think he will be a great fit with Monk and Frank in that 2nd unit. 

Teams go small, take out Dwight put Zeller in. Marvin not shooting well, but in Frank and team with Dwight or Zeller. 

We now have options, something we didn't have last year. 

[Guest OGHornetMike]

We are in a great situation. Starting 5 Kemba Nic MKG Williams Howard. 2nd unit. (New PG from free agency) Monc Bacon/Lamb Frank Cody. We have options 1st time in years. Any real Hornet fan knows and understand this is a great situation. Lot of work to do but I like the challenge!!!

[Wundrbread33]

I see Frank being the ideal fit with Dwight, and Marv with Zeller.

 

Comparing Marv and Frank: Marv is the better rebounder and defender of the two, while I see Frank as the better overall offensive talent.

Frank's rebounding liability is completely made up for by Dwight, and I think Frank's creativity offensively (and range) opens the lane up for Dwight.

Marv can play well with either (he obviously is a solid stretch 4 as well, with range), but if Frank continues to build off of his second half performance from last year, he will need to garner those starting minutes with Dwight.

[davos]

Cool cool trying gauge some opinions here; didn't know if anyone thought Zeller became a tradeable asset or whatnot. Seems like a really solid group on the offensive side that can rebound on both ends.

[Wundrbread33]

On June 24, 2017 at 9:17 PM, davos said:

Cool cool trying gauge some opinions here; didn't know if anyone thought Zeller became a tradeable asset or whatnot. Seems like a really solid group on the offensive side that can rebound on both ends.

I really like our bigs now that we have a legit shot blocker down low. Zeller is a unique big because of how he moves. A PnR defending big like him is a rare commodity, and I love his passing and his rolling dunks. 

Much like MKG, I believe Zeller is "learning to shoot the three" away from being a completely different beast though. I hope to see both extend their range. If they do, look out!

[WOW!!]

still need to add another C to the roster..

[OldNorthPowell]

32 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

still need to add another C to the roster..

And a back up PG.  I am not sure if that was mentioned........Oh NVM.

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, OldNorthPowell said:

And a back up PG.  I am not sure if that was mentioned........Oh NVM.

Yes I would love for them to bring back Woods  and sign Premesenke ( whatever) the C from Gonzo and a backup PG

[OldNorthPowell]

Yeah.  The only thing they are missing now IMHO is a back up PG, and a 3rd string center.  I like the big boy from Gonzaga as well.  He could develop a little more offense learning behind Howard, Zeller, and Kaminsky.

[YoungPanthers89]

How long does it take you to log in and out of 3 accounts to pie every post?

[OldNorthPowell]

I would trade Marvin Williams, and start Kaminsky.  Get a solid vet back up at PG, and sign a vet PF to play behind Kaminsky at the 4.  It is what it is though.