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Rival Thread: How Losing Shanahan Affects The Falcons More Than Originally Thought

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39 minutes ago, Wa'ya said:

Averaging 25 touchdowns and 13 interceptions over 8 previous seasons with 44 fumbles, me too!

That's the same as Cam except with more TD's. Hey I'll take if the Falcons win..only 2 losing seasons in 9 years!

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48 minutes ago, Ball4life said:

That's the same as Cam except with more TD's. Hey I'll take if the Falcons win..only 2 losing seasons in 9 years!

And how many playoff appearances under the Cam Newton era? I think the Panthers have been to the playoffs more than any other NFC South team in the Cam Newton era.

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1 hour ago, Ball4life said:

That's the same as Cam except with more TD's. Hey I'll take if the Falcons win..only 2 losing seasons in 9 years!

LOL I hope he would have more TD's being in the league 3 more years, and as for the 2 losing seasons the Falcons lost the NFC South with a 8-8 record to the Panthers who had a 7-9 record. That 7-9 record was the Panthers 3 losing season so not so sure that's anything to brag about LOL 

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19 minutes ago, Wa'ya said:

LOL I hope he would have more TD's being in the league 3 more years, and as for the 2 losing seasons the Falcons lost the NFC South with a 8-8 record to the Panthers who had a 7-9 record. That 7-9 record was the Panthers 3 losing season so not so sure that's anything to brag about LOL 

Meant he averages more TD's a year. 26.6 a year for Ryan (not 25) and 22.6 for Newton.

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3 minutes ago, Ball4life said:

Meant he averages more TD's a year. 26.6 a year for Ryan (not 25) and 22.6 for Newton.

Yeah Ryan had an exceptional year last year 38 TDs, if you look back at my other post I said previous years, and if you want to compare apples to apples Ryan had an average of 27.2 compared to Cam's 30.6

But keep on believing Matt Ryan is the better QB, far be it me who burst your bubble.

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39 minutes ago, Wa'ya said:

Yeah Ryan had an exceptional year last year 38 TDs, if you look back at my other post I said previous years, and if you want to compare apples to apples Ryan had an average of 27.2 compared to Cam's 30.6

But keep on believing Matt Ryan is the better QB, far be it me who burst your bubble.

Don't worry I don't believe it...I know it. 

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1 hour ago, Wa'ya said:

Yeah Ryan had an exceptional year last year 38 TDs, if you look back at my other post I said previous years, and if you want to compare apples to apples Ryan had an average of 27.2 compared to Cam's 30.6

But keep on believing Matt Ryan is the better QB, far be it me who burst your bubble.

Matt Ryan is a waaaaaay better PASSER than Cam. Period. No matter how you slice the stats. Accuracy, TD/INT, et al. You keep including Cam's rushing TDs in the equation. Cam's passing mechanics flat out suck. Everybody knows it. Thats why so many of his passes sail on him. Especially outside of the hash marks. 

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1 hour ago, Bytes said:

Matt Ryan is a waaaaaay better PASSER than Cam. Period. No matter how you slice the stats. Accuracy, TD/INT, et al. You keep including Cam's rushing TDs in the equation. Cam's passing mechanics flat out suck. Everybody knows it. Thats why so many of his passes sail on him. Especially outside of the hash marks. 

  • Most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history (47)
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
  • Most games in NFL history with a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown (32)
  • Most player of the week awards in a single season (5) tied with Tom Brady
  • First player in NFL history and most games with at least 250 passing yards, 100 rushing yards, 1 passing touchdown, and 1 rushing touchdown in a single game (2)
  • Most games in single season with at least one passing touchdown and one rushing touchdown (8) 
  • Only player in NFL history with at least 30 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in same season
  • Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Most combined yards in a player’s first five seasons (21,560)
  • First quarterback and fifth player in NFL history with at least 500 rushing yards, 5 rushing touchdowns, and 4.8 yards a carry in 5 consecutive NFL seasons
  • First quarterback in NFL history to win both NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year and NFL MVP at some point in his career.
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
  • Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals, vs. Green Bay Packers, and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars)
  • Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games
  • First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games
  • Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons 
  • First player to have 30 passing touchdowns and 20 rushing touchdowns in first two seasons
  • First player in NFL history with 50 passing touchdowns and 25 rushing touchdowns in his first three seasons
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ passing yards and 500+ rushing yards in a season
  • First quarterback in NFL history with 100+ pass touchdowns and 25+ rush touchdowns in first five seasons
  • First quarterback in NFL history with multiple seasons of 20+ passing touchdowns and 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season 
  • First player in NFL history with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons
  • First player in NFL history with 10,000 passing yards and 2,000 rushing yards in his first four seasons
  • First player in NFL history to have at least 3,000 passing yards and 500 rushing yards in five consecutive seasons
  • First quarterback in NFL history to rush for 100+ yards and pass for 300+ yards with 5 touchdowns in a single game (December 20, 2015).
  • First player in NFL history with 100+ rush yards and 5 pass touchdowns in a single game
  • First player with 3,500 passing yards, 20 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in a single season (2011, 2015)
  • First quarterback in NFL history with 10+ rushing touchdowns in multiple NFL seasons (2011, 2015)
  • Fifth quarterback in NFL history with 3+ games with 5+ touchdown passes in a season
  • Fourth quarterback to win 17+ straight regular season starts in the Super Bowl era
  • Most games in NFL history with at least 200 passing yards and 80 rushing yards with multiple touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown (4 games)
  • 3rd quarterback in NFL history with 2+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown
  • 2nd quarterback in NFL history with 3+ passing touchdowns and 1+ rushing touchdown
  • Most touchdown passes from a player from Auburn
  • First starting quarterback to win the NFC South in consecutive seasons (2013–2015)
  • Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass touchdowns in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning ('99)
  • First quarterback in NFL history to earn a comeback victory when trailing in overtime
  • 3rd quarterback in NFL history to pass for over 3.000 yards in his first five seasons
  • 2nd most 5+ touchdown games in a single season (3)
  • 2nd quarterback with 300+ passing yards and 100+ rushing yards in a single game
  • First player in Super Bowl era to pass for 300 yards and rush for multiple touchdowns in a playoff game 
  • Most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in his first four seasons

So how many records does Ryan hold?

The only reason you don't want to talk about rushing is because Matt Ryan is a 1 trick pony and can't.

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Just now, Wa'ya said:

So how many records does Ryan hold?

 

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14 hours ago, Wa'ya said:

 

So the short answer is 2 records...

 

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19 hours ago, Wa'ya said:

 and as for the 2 losing seasons the Falcons lost the NFC South with a 8-8 record to the Panthers who had a 7-9 record.

That's not possible, even with a sweep. We were 6-10 that year, y'all were 7-8-1.

Just pointing that out, could care less about the Cam vs Matt debate.

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3 hours ago, theDIRTYcode2 said:

That's not possible, even with a sweep. We were 6-10 that year, y'all were 7-8-1.

Just pointing that out, could care less about the Cam vs Matt debate.

Yep your right I messed up on the years, 6 - 10 in 2014, 8-8 2015 still not what I would call a winning season.

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