"The Carolina Panthers' Twitter Account Is Obsessed With Christian McCaffrey And It's Brilliant"

[Saca312]

2 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

And yet, the man has ranked in the Top 5 for most broken tackles in the last two years.

Suck it, you wannabe. Keep hyping up that overrated SEC conference.

I bet he thinks OJ Howard is going to be an All-Pro GOAT tight end as well and that we have no chance of stopping him.

[electro's horse]

8 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

And yet, the man has ranked in the Top 5 for most broken tackles in the last two years.

Counting stats are likely more related to opportunity than total skill! I wouldn't lean too hard on this since he's ranked behind you know khiry robinson and carlos hyde

https://www.profootballfocus.com/running-back-breakdown-forcing-missed-tackles/

and they didn't even need first round picks!

[electro's horse]

7 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Stewart's arguably had a quality career and should be mentioned as part of the upper tier. If you don't remember, he was a prime reason we broke a certain record in 2009 that no other NFL runningback committee has done since. 

Not many backs do what Stewart does. Had he been healthier and the main back most of his career, he could be part of HoF conversation right now. 

And speaking of 2015, I remember reading a stat that said had Stewart been healthy the whole season, he would've been on pace to crack around 1500 yards.

at no point in his career has jonathan stewart been an "upper tier" running back, by any metric you want.

all you have are what ifs, and i didn't know they handed out lombardis for that. 

of course i remember 2009; it was the only time he's broken 1k yards. first round running back and 50million dollar contract!

health is a skill saca. it's the reason curtis martin is in the hall, and the reason why stewart is an afterthought away from the most delusional fanbase in the nfl. 

[Saca312]

38 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

at no point in his career has jonathan stewart been an "upper tier" running back, by any metric you want.

 

[electro's horse]

Thanks for all the tweets from people I've never heard of. 

Link your own blog next. 

[Saca312]

28 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Thanks for all the tweets from people I've never heard of. 

Link your own blog next. 

Stat based analytical people with valid reputations for their work as such.

Not a national media writer with the next hot take, but people who actually know football.

[electro's horse]

Are you implying the fo article with no actual numbers and a bunch of cherry picked gifs is satistical analysis?

or the contextless chart without any explanation of what it means?

regardless the fact a running back's best year occurred 7 seasons into his career and was concurrent with the NFL MVP is uh not great for his career retrospective. 

[pantherphan96]

5 hours ago, csx said:

At least he's not another SEC rb. Then you might have a point there.

If only there was a way to look up how current and recent NFL running backs stack up production wise to see how well PAC guys have done in recent years. 

The point isn't to compare SEC RB's to PAC12 RB's it's to compare the defenses they face. A RB that makes defenses like LSU and Bama look silly is much more impressive than schooling defenses like Oregon State and Arizona.

2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

And yet, the man has ranked in the Top 5 for most broken tackles in the last two years.

Suck it, you wannabe. Keep hyping up that overrated SEC conference.

Stew is a good workhorse back but he's in the top 10-15 range. Replaceable if you draft well.

 

SEC is far from overrated. SEC and Big 10 each have 8 schools in the top 25 of schools with most draft picks. PAC12 only has 4, ACC has 2, and Big 12 has 2.

http://drafthistory.com/n_college/college_n.html

[pantherphan96]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Stewart's arguably had a quality career and should be mentioned as part of the upper tier. If you don't remember, he was a prime reason we broke a certain record in 2009 that no other NFL runningback committee has done since. 

Not many backs do what Stewart does. Had he been healthier and the main back most of his career, he could be part of HoF conversation right now. 

And speaking of 2015, I remember reading a stat that said had Stewart been healthy the whole season, he would've been on pace to crack around 1500 yards.

What-ifs are worthless. I like Stew but him not being able to stay healthy is what defines his career. He can be projected to rush for 2000 yards thru week 4 of next season, but if he gets hurt week 5 it doesn't mean poo.

[Saca312]

21 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Are you implying the fo article with no actual numbers and a bunch of cherry picked gifs is satistical analysis?

or the contextless chart without any explanation of what it means?

regardless the fact a running back's best year occurred 7 seasons into his career and was concurrent with the NFL MVP is uh not great for his career retrospective. 

I can't believe I'm actually trying to argue with you that Stewart's a damn good back. I can assure you he was real good his first few years and did what he can with a god-awful o-line for a huge chunk. His best years were definitely prior to 2015, but he's been playing at a high level for a while.

And you'd think after our running game died in the superbowl and falcons game in 2015 due to Stew's absence that people finally realized how important he is. He has to break more tackles behind the line of scrimmage more than most backs.

If you really want to keep embarrassing yourself, please continue. That's all you're doing at this point.

[Pantherxtreme]

11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Are you implying the fo article with no actual numbers and a bunch of cherry picked gifs is satistical analysis?

or the contextless chart without any explanation of what it means?

regardless the fact a running back's best year occurred 7 seasons into his career and was concurrent with the NFL MVP is uh not great for his career retrospective. 

Stewart best season was in his 2nd year rushing for 1133 yards, 5.1 avg, and 10 Tds. He came into this organization and rushed for over 800 yards as a rookie and transformed this rushing attack with D'Angelo coming into his own. That 2009 season if we would have had a decent qb we could havre gotten to the Superbowl behind the strength of our running game. The rest of Stewart's career was plague by some injuries and him being in a platoon system he didn't rack up a lot of yards like some of his contemporaries but it wasn't due to lack of talent. The very 1st year he becomes the lead back even as an older back by league standards he would have been a 1000 yard back had he not gotten hurt and the coaching staff decided to rest him for the playoffs. To act like Stewart hasn't been a quality top tier back in his career when healthy is ludacris. Stats only tell half of the story. You don't make it 9 years into your career at runningback in the NFL, a starter at that if you haven't been a stud.

[Saca312]

16 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

What-ifs are worthless. I like Stew but him not being able to stay healthy is what defines his career. He can be projected to rush for 2000 yards thru week 4 of next season, but if he gets hurt week 5 it doesn't mean poo.

Fair point. Had those injury issues since college years sadly. People seem to forget that Stewart was the equivalent of Fournette as far as hype coming out, and he arguably had better tape.

Man, imagining what his career could've been like. He honestly would've done better not being in Carolina.

[electro's horse]

21 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Stewart best season was in his 2nd year rushing for 1133 yards, 5.1 avg, and 10 Tds. He came into this organization and rushed for over 800 yards as a rookie and transformed this rushing attack with D'Angelo coming into his own. That 2009 season if we would have had a decent qb we could havre gotten to the Superbowl behind the strength of our running game. The rest of Stewart's career was plague by some injuries and him being in a platoon system he didn't rack up a lot of yards like some of his contemporaries but it wasn't due to lack of talent. The very 1st year he becomes the lead back even as an older back by league standards he would have been a 1000 yard back had he not gotten hurt and the coaching staff decided to rest him for the playoffs. To act like Stewart hasn't been a quality top tier back in his career when healthy is ludacris. Stats only tell half of the story. You don't make it 9 years into your career at runningback in the NFL, a starter at that if you haven't been a stud.

yes, he did well in his second year in the league.

health is a skill that he doesn't have. you might as well be wishing kenjon barner was a better runner. 

no the panthers would not have gone to the superbowl in 2009 unless tom brady was their qb because their defense was old, injury prone and trash. 

[electro's horse]

25 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I can't believe I'm actually trying to argue with you that Stewart's a damn good back. I can assure you he was real good his first few years and did what he can with a god-awful o-line for a huge chunk. His best years were definitely prior to 2015, but he's been playing at a high level for a while.

And you'd think after our running game died in the superbowl and falcons game in 2015 due to Stew's absence that people finally realized how important he is. He has to break more tackles behind the line of scrimmage more than most backs.

If you really want to keep embarrassing yourself, please continue. That's all you're doing at this point.

Do you look around the league at all? Stewart is the definition of replaceable. Running backs are worthless in the NFL right now, and drafting one is pure luck (see david johnson)

the superbowl performance has nothing to do with stewart's career as a whole, and it's telling you keep clinging to singular events to try to describe a nearly decades long career. 

stewart was an injury prone luxury pick the panthers drafted because their preferred choice ryan clady was taken. his pick eventually led to hurney offering the cam newton pick for jimmy clausen which the cardinals thankfully didn't take.

he's never been more than a platoon back who couldn't stay healthy with some flashes. If that's worth a first round pick and a 50 million dollar extension than i don't know what to tell you.

furthermore, this entire tangent started because someone defended CMC breaking people's ankles in a volleyball conference to Jonathan stewart. The two players could not be more different, and nothing about stewart's career, whatever you want to tell yourself about it, should inform you of how a hybrid wr/rb will do with a qb who's inaccurate within 15 yards.