Stats: Greg Olsen Has The Potential To Be Even Deadlier With Our New Rookies

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then stop. I honestly forgot who you were, now I remember. The pot is really calling the kettle black on this on.

Your are right, I will stop. You clearly are going to just go down another bunny trail and will have to get the last word so have at it. No need to discuss anything unless there is the hope of give and take and clearly that is a waste of time and effort here.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Your are right, I will stop. You clearly are going to just go down another bunny trail and will have to get the last word so have at it. No need to discuss anything unless there is the hope of give and take and clearly that is a waste of time and effort here.

Again, the pot calls the kettle black, but whatever.

Agree to agree. We'll drop it.

[Jeremy Igo]

When the Panthers drafted Funchess, the idea was that he could play any receiver position on the field. The fact hat Greg is in the slot quite a bit might point to lack of development by Funchess. 

 

Or, it may allude to Rivera saying that they did not use Funchess properly. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

9 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Maybe not having a true slot receiver is the reason our offense was stagnant instead of needing a second tight end?

Honestly, it seems like the biggest difference between 2015 and 2016 was Cotchery. If you go back and watch some of the tougher games for the offense, like the one against Dallas, it was Cotchery who bailed Cam out when everything else wasn't working.

[Sasquatch]

9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When lined up as a tackle eligible? Yes, they can.

That play only worked as a gadget play in that situation. Jackson bit on the play fake to Blount (like many in the stadium). Not a good idea as a rule to sacrifice a matchup. LBs and Ss will generally have little issue with covering an OT running a route.

[Ken]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Ed Dickson: 478 snaps, 19 pass targets. That's less than 4% of the time that Dickson was on the field that he received a pass. It'd be interesting if anyone has compiled stats on the percentage of time a tackle eligible is targeted with a pass. I have a suspicion it wouldn't look much different than that. We were basically treating Dickson as a tackle eligible.

A better stat for this argument would be how many times he ran a route. Pass targets not really a true picture.

Not sure if that stat is available since pff revamped their stats site.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, Ken said:

A better stat for this argument would be how many times he ran a route. Pass targets not really a true picture.

Not sure if that stat is available since pff revamped their stats site.

Not sure, but if you actually want a defense to take a guy seriously as a receiver, you gotta actually throw him the ball more than 4% of the time.

[KB_fan]

On 6/16/2017 at 10:39 PM, L-TownCat said:

Maybe not having a true slot receiver is the reason our offense was stagnant instead of needing a second tight end?

Yeah, I think we missed Cotchery a heck of a lot more than any of us thought we would.   We were all so focused on losing J No (and Peanut, Allen & Harper), and pretty much assumed our Offense would be fine... returned everyone but Cotch, added KB back... how could we ever miss Cotch?   But we did.

[L-TownCat]

5 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Yeah, I think we missed Cotchery a heck of a lot more than any of us thought we would.   We were all so focused on losing J No (and Peanut, Allen & Harper), and pretty much assumed our Offense would be fine... returned everyone but Cotch, added KB back... how could we ever miss Cotch?   But we did.

Just to make one thing perfectly clear....

 

Cotchery caught that fuggin ball.

[Tomcatn]

7 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Just to make one thing perfectly clear....

 

Cotchery caught that fuggin ball.

Except in the SB....I still don't get that one, almost like it was set up that way. Conspiracy theory? Who the hell knows. That game stunk from the word go.

[shaqattaq]

On 6/16/2017 at 11:11 PM, Saca312 said:

I don't even know if Dickson can do that half the time.

actually, he has 10 catches on 19 targets, so that's 52.63% of the time, way better than half!

[thefuzz]

On 6/16/2017 at 11:47 PM, Saca312 said:

Fair enough, but we never really had that Cotchery type of player that you knew could move the chains on 3rd down. Olsen tried his best, but even that hampered our offensive potential.

To be very honest, I was really worried about our WR's last season...not so much the skill, but the position meetings.

Who was in there?  KB who doesn't seem to care about much, Funch, who is barely 20 years old, Philly, Bersin, Ted Ginn, Proehl......

Not much vet leadership/experience outside of Proehl, and I'm pretty sure he was asked to move on, even if the team doesn't say so.

[PandaPancake]

Curtis Samuel has to be so happy with all the attention Olsen and CMC will be getting.