Best Case/Worst Case

[panthers55]

27 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

You are a Shula apologist and it is what it is.

2013 we were 12-4, 2014 we were 7-8-1. 

  Davidson yes, Chudz no and hell no on Henning.  Dan Henning won a Super Bowl and was the OC for a very good Washington offense.  Henning is the only reason we came back on New England in SB38. He made in games adjustments and almost beat NE.  If we had made it to OT.  We would have won.  Henning was an offensive genius.  If you would take Shula over Henning.  You don't know Dan Henning.

Henning won a Superbowl with Washington in the 80s. I once read that defenses could tee off on our offense because he would always snap the ball on the first quarterback bark to simplify things and cut down on offsides calls. Yeah it simplified it for defenses. Real genius there.

Henning was a big advocate of feeding the stud and going to the same play over and over. The king of predictability. 

He had losing records as a head coach both in the NFL and college. While OC during his 5 years here our points per game rankings -

2002- 30. (16.1)

2003- 15th (20.3)

2004- 13th (22.2)

2005- 8th (24.4)

2006- 24th (16.9)

No top 5 finish and 1 top 10 finish. Hardly genius. Your opinion and the facts appear to vary greatly.....

[tiger7_88]

On 6/10/2017 at 5:03 AM, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Blame Cam and others for performance.

But you don't understand, since Cam could "audible" out of Shula's awful play-calling all that time, its all Cam's fault.

Don't you see?  Its all Cam's fault for not totally undermining his OC.

[panthers55]

33 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

But you don't understand, since Cam could "audible" out of Shula's awful play-calling all that time, its all Cam's fault.

Don't you see?  Its all Cam's fault for not totally undermining his OC.

Who said that besides you? You guys  have to make extreme characterizations to deny the reality which is Cam does have as much culpability as Shula. They work hand in hand and both have a role in our offense. Characterizing it as one of their faults without acknowledging the other is pretty stupid and bias. But carry on....

[PanthersATL]

Isn't "worst case scenario" always something like, "rookie sprains his pinkie toe while walking/tripping towards the opening drive huddle during opener, but due to an unusual foot defect doctors are unable to fix the toe in a way for the player to return to play anytime during the season?"

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[DaveThePanther2008]

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Henning won a Superbowl with Washington in the 80s. I once read that defenses could tee off on our offense because he would always snap the ball on the first quarterback bark to simplify things and cut down on offsides calls. Yeah it simplified it for defenses. Real genius there.

Henning was a big advocate of feeding the stud and going to the same play over and over. The king of predictability. 

He had losing records as a head coach both in the NFL and college. While OC during his 5 years here our points per game rankings -

2002- 30. (16.1)

2003- 15th (20.3)

2004- 13th (22.2)

2005- 8th (24.4)

2006- 24th (16.9)

No top 5 finish and 1 top 10 finish. Hardly genius. Your opinion and the facts appear to vary greatly.....

Henning is 10x better coordinator than Shula will ever dream of regardless of your counter remarks.

Henning can make adjustments,  SHULA CAN'T.  End of story.

Rivera's loyalty to Shula will cost him his job. 

[stankowalski]

On 6/8/2017 at 6:52 AM, Porn Shop Clerk said:

Cam threw a lot underneath to Stewie for big plays before Shula, so this guy is kinda stupid.

A little bit of hyperbole here, but the one year that Cam had Chud Stewart did have a lot more receptions.  According to NFL.com stats he had 47 receptions that year for 1 TD.  The only other year he had more than 20 receptions was in 2014 when he had 25 receptions.  The first and second year after Chud left, Stewart only played in 15 games total.  So his injuries played a part in his "diminished" role both in the passing game and receiving game I would think.  In fact, Stewart hasn't been able to complete an entire season since 2011 without missing games.

[Jangler]

lets see...

 

I'll go with winning Superbowl 52 and geothermal nuclear war

 

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, SJTG4 said:

lmao you've never been in an nfl huddle probably not even college you don't know what Cam's job is on a given play or how many plays he is given 

Correct on not being there. But I have paid attention over the years to how things work which have come from Cam, Shula and other players. So what I said is my understanding of what happens.Do you know something to the contrary?

In addition since the mike to the coaches cut off at 15 seconds, any adjustments typically made at the line of scrimmage are Cams adjustments and audibles. Pay attention next time and watch how he adjusts the backs, moves receivers and changes plays. Then some of it is what all team do like hot reads and putting receivers in motion to see whether the defense is in man or zone. Changing routes based on where the defender lines up. Shepard talked about the freedom receivers have. The same with Cam. Pay more attention and then we might be able to have a convo.