OTAs twitter feed thread

[LinvilleGorge]

23 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Shula had never run a spread option before Cam came along, so when you say he has never adapted his approach, that's simply not true.

 

Another thing I have noticed is that that a lot of the same people who constantly bash Shula also get all defensive when somebody brings up even the most mild criticisms of Cam Newton. The fact is, Cam has an option on every single play. Nobody is making him throw it 30yds downfield on 3rd and 5. There is ALWAYS  an underneath option unless it's a desperation hail mary play. In fact, he can audible from a run to a pass, or visa versa pretty much anytime he wants.

Let's play Find The Underneath Option *cue cheesy game show theme music*

This is a prime example of a play that features nothing but slow developing downfield routes, the play being a bust, and Cam creating a lot of something out of nothing.

Cam isn't perfect, but he has had big time success at every level of football. Shula has had big time siccess when he has had Cam Newton as his QB.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

Everybody should time those routes by Samuel and KB in your heads. Samuel runs a 10yd route in about 2 seconds and KB runs a 20yd route in about 4 seconds. KB will never APPEAR to be as fast as Samuel but there really isn't much difference, if we're all  honest about it.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Let's play Find The Underneath Option *cue cheesy game show theme music*

This is a prime example of a play that features nothing but slow developing downfield routes, the play being a bust, and Cam creating a lot of something out of nothing.

Cam isn't perfect, but he has had big time success at every level of football. Shula has had big time siccess when he has had Cam Newton as his QB.

That's one play and it's 3rd and 9 so anything under that is a waste of time. Also, we won that game and Cam did a hell of a job getting the 1st down. This doesn't really help your case much.

[jfra78]

In his defense, it's impolite and a little difficult to talk when your mouth is full.

this is probably why he is not talking to the media

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[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

That's one play and it's 3rd and 9 so anything under that is a waste of time. Also, we won that game and Cam did a hell of a job getting the 1st down. This doesn't really help your case much.

Lol!!! 

So now you add qualifiers to your statement? You very confidently said that EVERY play featured underneath options. This is blatantly false and anyone who has watched the Panthers play and has even a slight understanding of the game of football should know this.

Maybe I missed it, but last I checked it was possible to advance the ball down the field after a reception. Converting a 3rd and 9 doesn't always have to involve the ball traveling 9+ yards in the air past the line of scrimmage. A lack of underneath routes plays a big role in our lack of YAC as a team.

 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Lol!!! 

So now you add qualifiers to your statement? You very confidently said that EVERY play featured underneath options. This is blatantly false and anyone who has watched the Panthers play and has even a slight understanding of the game of football should know this.

Maybe I missed it, but last I checked it was possible to advance the ball down the field after a reception. Converting a 3rd and 9 doesn't always have to involve the ball traveling 9+ yards in the air past the line of scrimmage. A lack of underneath routes plays a big role in our lack of YAC as a team.

 

OK then. Let's say every play except for some obvious third and long plays. Even then there is usually a check down though, unless they're going max protect. You're nit picking.

[Saca312]

Eyes on the ball. What you want to see out of any WR:

 

[KSpan]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Let's play Find The Underneath Option *cue cheesy game show theme music*

This is a prime example of a play that features nothing but slow developing downfield routes, the play being a bust, and Cam creating a lot of something out of nothing.

Cam isn't perfect, but he has had big time success at every level of football. Shula has had big time siccess when he has had Cam Newton as his QB.

Wasn't that play from 2011, when Chud (not Shula) was running the offense?

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Wasn't that play from 2011, when Chud (not Shula) was running the offense?

Honestly not sure. I just went with one I'd the first gifs that popped up on the Google search. I could've picked one of a bunch. That type of play has been a fixture of our offense.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, mjligon said:

Next year:

RR on Christian McCaffrey: "We could've probably used him a bit better last year."

I have no faith that Ron and Shula will ever fuggin change until they show me. Rivera is hard headed and IMO clueless as to what makes an offense click.  IMO he will field a craptastic offense as is the norm, and blame any failing on player execution.

[Paa Langfart]

34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Gotta adapt. We didn't even try.

Exactly - you think Bellicheat sits around using hurt players as an excuse ?

[grimesgoat]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Gotta adapt. We didn't even try.

I hear you repeating this mantra often, so I'll ask this question.  At what point do you give up on the offensive line and change the approach?  When does a coach say to the five guys doing their best to block the other team that 'they are failures and now we have to change schemes because you guys suck?'

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, grimesgoat said:

I hear you repeating this mantra often, so I'll ask this question.  At what point do you give up on the offensive line and change the approach?  When does a coach say to the five guys doing their best to block the other team that 'they are failures and now we have to change schemes because you guys suck?'

 

Is this a serious question? These guys are professional football coaches. The gameplan should be being addressed on a weekly basis based on personnel, the opponent, match ups, etc. To continue to do the same things (unsuccessfully) week in and week out is insanity.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Eyes on the ball. What you want to see out of any WR:

 

That plus his hands are in the "diamond" configuration that I'm always pounding into the heads of my kids.