Jeremy Igo: OTAs Reveal A Peak Of Panthers Offense Evolution

[Black&BlueBubba]

I don't know exactly what you mean, but I am just going to put it out there: I appreciate some of Saca's posts, but it has gotten to the point where some of his posts and texts are waaaaaaay too long and contain waaaaaaay too much of other people's material. With [mention=24509]Saca312[/mention]---and I'm just gonna speak for myself---it's almost like he's trying waaaaaaay too hard, and there is an undecurrent of post weariness with me when it comes to some of his stuff. Sorry, Saca..
I don't know why you'd skip posting "most" of your articles on the forum because some of us have grown accustomed to this modus operandi and are probably more likely to click it if you post it as opposed to another Huddler. If you bring it (post it), we will come.  If Saca or any other Huddler does, we may or may not.
But carry on, gentlemen, perhaps this time of year is just causing some form of forum cabin fever. Some of us just may be getting a bit cantankerous playing the waiting game.

I completely disagree. I very much enjoy Saca's work. You are sounding like a guy who sits in a brainstorming session and puts down every idea someone has, but yet never offers one solution of your own.


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[top dawg]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Disagree.

Saca is passionate about analyzing football. I won't fault him for that.

What's equally - arguably more - important, he's good at it.

Passion is good, but the fair use doctrine is real. Even with the Internet and message boards, it's not some meaningless abstraction. 

 

51 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

 

I completely disagree. I very much enjoy Saca's work. You are sounding like a guy who sits in a brainstorming session and puts down every idea someone has, but yet never offers one solution of your own.


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That's your opinion, and it may or may not be true depending on one's perception and/or perspective, but my reputation as a Huddler speaks for itself. I've provided plenty of content to this place over the years, my own and other's. I have done a lot of thinking outside the box as well. Some may like it, some may hate it, but it is what it is. Sometimes I say the unpopular thing,  or the thing that others may be thinking but are reluctant to express. I also tend to think that there's only so much so many people can say about arguably too little subjects (i.e., the same thing), but that's me. Personally, I am more interested in the human side of football than just the specifics of the Xs and Os, but that's just me. But, I appreciate it all, and, more importantly, I know how to pick and choose to click or not to click without criticisizing unless I feel it's warranted. If I do criticise another Huddler for content, it's generally in the spirit of constructive criticism. I think that Saca offers great content at times, but not all the time. This being a football message board and largely a place for our entertainment and enjoyment, I enjoy others who want to pass on some knowledge and give different perspectives about all things football. To Mr. Scot's point, passion is good, but the fair use doctrine is not some abstraction, even with the Internet, and I would hate for something adverse to happen to this place we all appreciate because someone mistakes passion for plagiarism. Even the specter of click-bait is not necessarily a positive thing, not saying that this is always Joe Schmoe poster's intention, much less Saca. I would think that Igo can link his own stuff on his own site, and no one would bat an eye. And, like I said earlier, many of us have come to be expect it.

[csx]

Back to the topic of the post. I don't believe one new drill by itself is strong evidence of a different approach to the offense. It's a new drill from a new coach. 

[Saca312]

6 minutes ago, csx said:

Back to the topic of the post. I don't believe one new drill by itself is strong evidence of a different approach to the offense. It's a new drill from a new coach. 

Igo mentioned in that article even with changes in coaching regime throughout his years of experience, no one has changed the drills that the Panthers usually ran.

 

[csx]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Igo mentioned in that article even with changes in coaching regime throughout his years of experience, no one has changed the drills that the Panthers usually ran.

 

Ok. It's noteworthy in that regard but it's still one different drill from a new position coach. 

[top dawg]

9 minutes ago, csx said:

Back to the topic of the post. I don't believe one new drill by itself is strong evidence of a different approach to the offense. It's a new drill from a new coach. 

I agree with that, but I will say that most signs are pointing to change at the very least. Do you not believe that just the fact that we drafted McCaffrey and Samuel is the best indicator that evolution is on the way, or at least on the minds of our GM and coaches (which is simply a good thing)? The draft, in conjunction with this small drill, and the words that have been spewed forth since the season has ended, is a pretty good indicator that change is coming.

[csx]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I agree with that, but I will say that most signs are pointing to change at the very least. Do you not believe that just the fact that we drafted McCaffrey and Samuel is the best indicator that evolution is on the way, or at least on the minds of our GM and coaches (which is simply a good thing)? The draft, in conjunction with this small drill, and the words that have been spewed forth since the season has ended, is a pretty good indicator that change is coming.

I think these might be two different topics possibly. One is the offensive direction and the other is trying to teach separation to guys not known for it.

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, csx said:

I think these might be two different topics possibly. One is the offensive direction and the other is trying to teach separation to guys not known for it.

Perhaps, but I am not going into this thinking that Benjamin is somehow going to manufacture separation because of a new coach. Moreover, unlike others, I feel that there is still some question as to whether or not Funchess can get (or has been getting) separation. These things being said, the addition of Samuel and McCaffrey should in theory open things up for the bigger receivers of our group and facilitate better separation. This might belie some evolution.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, csx said:

I appreciate the effort and it's great content but if I disagree I will say so. I don't think the point of a forum is to agree because of passion.

 

That's kind of an odd response.

My comment about his passion was referring to the length of his posts and the time and effort that he puts into them.

Nothing about that prevents you from disagreeing with his analysis or conclusions, and nowhere did I suggest you couldn't.

[arbnranger]

5 hours ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

When I grow burnt out t with certain tv, radio, the google, etc... I just tune out and don't watch, read, listen.   Instead I watch Good Times reruns.  That works best for me.  

Dy-NO-mite!

[csx]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's kind of an odd response.

My comment about his passion was referring to the length of his posts and the time and effort that he puts into them.

Nothing about that prevents you from disagreeing with his analysis or conclusions, and nowhere did I suggest you couldn't.

This isn't meant to sound rude but I wasn't responding to your post though I did use one word you used.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

4 hours ago, csx said:

Back to the topic of the post. I don't believe one new drill by itself is strong evidence of a different approach to the offense. It's a new drill from a new coach. 

Well Jeremy's original article does say that it seems that the whole emphasize is for more agility and quickness. He just used that one drill as an example. At least that's how I read it.