What will Jake have to do...

[panthers55]

JR basically canned Mark from what it sounds like. Since the guy is gutsy enough to get rid of one of his own children because he felt it was better for the organization, I think he will make changes if he feels it is necessary.

That's the thing isn't it? Richardson is foremost a businessman in charge of what must be close to a billion dollar empire.He didn't get there making poor decisions and keeping people who were clearly hurting his success. I am sure that firing his sons was a very difficult decision as it would be for any father. Yet he did what he had to do and will do it again if he thinks the situation warrants it.

[Gman was right]

Coaches see what none of us do because they have game film and know what was supposed to happen as well as what did happen.. For example they know on the second interception it was Smitty who caused it not Jake. They see that Moose allowed the first one by not contesting the pass. They also see that Jake threw a touchdown that was called back due to questionable offensive pass interference on Moose. So the tally they keep for this pass game is that Jake threw 2 TDs and no interceptions which were his fault. They have game film and know what was called and who should have done what rather than what we have which is merely television coverage of what happened.

So they see that he has improved significantly since the Eagles game. And that is why they have faith in him to lead the team. What we think we see is totally irrelevant at this point.

So what will it take to bench him? A meltdown like against the Eagles which is highly unlikely.

You have taken Jake jock sniffing to a new level. Are you kidding me? If signficant improvement is throwing 1 td and 2 INTs a game then that just proves what a joke of a front office we have for giving $20 million to a below average QB. Im sure Peppers could have had 4 or 5 sacks by now but he doesnt. Im sure Deangello could have had 5 Tds by now but he doesnt. You can play that same "lets give imaginary stats" game with any player on the team. Unfortunately that doesnt translate into actual production. The fact is Jake has thrown 2 TDs and 7 Ints in three games. Its really sad when thats the best option we have at the most important position on the team.

[panthers55]

You have taken Jake jock sniffing to a new level. Are you kidding me? If signficant improvement is throwing 1 td and 2 INTs a game then that just proves what a joke of a front office we have for giving $20 million to a below average QB. Im sure Peppers could have had 4 or 5 sacks by now but he doesnt. Im sure Deangello could have had 5 Tds by now but he doesnt. You can play that same "lets give imaginary stats" game with any player on the team. Unfortunately that doesnt translate into actual production. The fact is Jake has thrown 2 TDs and 7 Ints in three games. Its really sad when thats the best option we have at the most important position on the team.

Wondered when you would come trolling around looking for a fight. Now who is stalking who??

[Gman was right]

I rarely respond to your posts. You asked for it by posting something so ridiculous.

[panthers55]

I rarely respond to your posts. You asked for it by posting something so ridiculous.

It is always good to hear your point of view. I can use it as a compass of sorts. As long as we are on opposite sides of the issue, I can be sure I am on the balanced side while you languish on the extreme troll fringe.

[Gman was right]

Id rather be realistic or as you would call it a "troll" than to be a delusional homer that makes up stats to cover up how bad his favorite player is. LOL

[Gman was right]

By the way, does anyone find it odd that he has this for a sig?

"You are what the numbers say you are"

LOL! And yet jake actually threw for two less INTs he tells us.

[panthers55]

By the way, does anyone find it odd that he has this for a sig?

"You are what the numbers say you are"

LOL! And yet jake actually threw for two less INTs he tells us.

Not hard to figure out, the numbers are the numbers. How you interpret them and the context give them meaning. I realize that logic and perspective typically elude you.

[Gman was right]

Right! Just like Jake really threw for 2 Tds and 7 Ints like the numbers say he did.

[panthers55]

Id rather be realistic or as you would call it a "troll" than to be a delusional homer that makes up stats to cover up how bad his favorite player is. LOL

As I said I'm glad to be on the home team while you are out there. Still you are always wrong. Jake is far from my favorite player, but I believe in being fair and balanced in my comments. Something which is so foreign to you to be apparently impossible to even grasp the concept. But I hardly have to justify my position to a troll. It only serves to give you undue credibility by even including you in the discussion instead of ignoring you.

[Gman was right]

Im always wrong and yet everything I predicted that would happen this season has been 100% true . Why do you insist on fighting me panther55 when you too could possess the knowledge that Gman has? Listen to him and not your heart/dick when it comes to the panthers. Gman is all knowing because he doesnt think with his heart. He just tells it like it is.

[Saint J]

You are what the numbers say you are

2TDs and 7INTs says that Jake is a bad QB, at least so far in 2009.

[jramsey4]

Im always wrong and yet everything I predicted that would happen this season has been 100% true . Why do you insist on fighting me panther55 when you too could possess the knowledge that Gman has? Listen to him and not your heart/dick when it comes to the panthers. Gman is all knowing because he doesnt think with his heart. He just tells it like it is.

He is the definition of a homer. One that can not see the many faults of the QB and HC he constantly defends. Bottom line is we are 0-3 we almost assuredly will not make the playoffs. Jake is not getting it done. He is constantly turning the ball over (I don't care whos fault it is). We have a team that cant score points or stop the opposing team from scoring. The absolute garbage we have put up with this season is too much.

[Peppers90 NC]

Jake has not lost these last two games, nor has he helped win any of the games. Eagles game was bad, but a poor O-Line performance was large part in that and because of that, Jake got the start week 2. It will take for Fox to do anything, is horrible performance, obviously we will lose the game, and him not able to pass blame on other teammates which he is doing now.

My friends sister(ex-cheerleader) is married to an ex-Panther(released this year and has been around since 03) has said that Fox and Jake always are together, go to dinner together after practices and games and have business partnerships as well outside of football. They are best buddies pretty much to where it will have part in costing Fox's job.