Game of Thrones Season 7

[CarolinaNCSU]

9 hours ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

The only reason I'm not sold is they have a lot of ground to cover to make that theory work in only 6 more episodes. But it would explain his detachment.  Even the 3ER wasn't as weird as Bran is...almost as if Bran already knows what his fate is.

Would make some sense for the good guys to go to Bran for help, and he just stares off saying...but it's pointless, you want to kill me/I'm the Night King.  Or he realizes he has to die or something and takes himself out.  

For Bran to have a payoff for his weirdness at this point, it HAS to be something that huge. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

6 hours ago, Moorgan said:

Also, maybe that witch that cursed Dany in season 1 is wrong and she can have kids? I suppose there's no reason to believe she is wrong but Tyrion bringing up the line of secession is a valid point. Who would take over for her?

Book readers will know better, but "her womb is quickening" or something was in the books alluding to the witch being wrong. 

[Goondal]

9 hours ago, Moorgan said:

A lot of little nit picky things with this episode:

Where did the wights get 4 huge chains to drag the dragon out of the lake?

Gendry running back, sending a raven and Dany flying up there all while the magnificent 7 were surrounded?

A lot of Red Shirts died while no one important died. More than I thought they brought with them...to die.

The plan was dumb and always was.

Arya is suddenly a complete douchebag. More on that.

Where was the third dragon in all of this?

I'm assuming Dany has some sort of magic while riding dragons to protect her from weather/wind but does that apply to the rest of the gang in the back of the bus?

 

OK so I really think Arya is deliberately being a jerk to force Littlefinger to reveal his plan to turn the sisters against each other, which will allow Arya to kill him and Sansa will approve when his scheming is revealed. Otherwise, she is suddenly dumb and emotional and being a jerk for no reason. Everything up until this point has shown us that she should be smarter than that. I mean that letter from Sansa was read aloud to several people and the lords of the north are very familiar with the concept of children being used as hostages by controlling families. Why would revealing that letter be of any threat whatsoever? It isn't. So Arya is hopefully just counter scheming Littlefinger because she shouldn't be that dumb.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode. I wasn't surprised by the ice dragon but it was cool nonetheless. I thought the dialogue north of the wall was excellent and it seems clear that Dany is VERY hot for John. Very. So this coming week we have the JAX game (which I will be at), Mayweather v McGregor and the final episode. A hell of a week coming.

I agree with you on Arya.  If not I am going to be very upset and am worried that one of the sisters may not make it out of the season.  But yes, I think it is a ploy.

I completely agree on the chains.  That made no sense.

The third dragon was flying around when Drogon was on the ground and the other was hit.  I did not see him leave with them though.  I honestly thought it was going to be him instead of Benjen that saved Jon and he would be able to ride him (it is the one names after his father after all), but I guess he just followed Dany home.

I too did not like that no one else died.  Jorah, the Hound, or Tormund should have bit it.

The only thing I can think on Gendry running back and Dany getting there is it just took a long time for the water to freeze over.  I am not sure how long it would have taken for something that large to freeze to the point you can walk on it.

[Goondal]

7 hours ago, CRA said:

I can accept the fast forward button storytelling.  I don't love it but I can accept they tell a story where a long period of time happens in a flash.

but the stuff like...Jon Snow gets attacked and taken below the ice....and survives! But now is doomed! But hold on Benjen magically appears out of nowhere to save him.  Then Benjen last 2 seconds on his own despite plowing through them is bullpoo.  

I can't stand the overplay of fake outs and saves shows do.  

I don't know how it ends....but I do think we bitch about Bran at the end. 

That crap really has bothered me this season.  First Jaime and then Jon.  Should have just had the other dragon save him, or hell just have him jump on Drogon to begin with.  Between whatever he was doing last night and his actions against Ramsey he certainly is pretty damn stupid in the heat of battle.

[Goondal]

4 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Lazy writing where people were saved at the last minute. That poo happened 4 times this episode.

• Thoros saved by sir Friendzone, although he eventually died.
• Tormund saved by the hound when he was about to be taken into the ice. 
• Dany swooping in last minute with her dragons to rescue Snow team 6
• Benjen coming out of nowhere to save Jon, telling him there's no time to explain, then dying.

 

I was okay with the Tormund thing, the rest were stupid.  I can only assume that Thoros stayed alive for a little to attempt to show a passage in time while Gendry sent his message but there was not way he would not have died from that attack.  

[Goondal]

3 hours ago, Panthro said:

A better dragon scene would have been NK aiming and throwing his spear at Drogon and crew...and Viserion flys in front of the spear.

That would have been totally badass and really shown his love for Dany, similar to Summer/Bran.  Plus he would have gone out a hero which is much better than what he got where he and the Rheagar dragon have basically just been in the background for seven years.

[Arroz con Panther]

In regards to the length of time they were on the island, this was posted on Reddit:

"tl;dr it took about 5 days for word to get to Dany and for her to get back to them. Which is about how long it would take for the ice to freeze enough to support the army of wights.

Regarding Gendry, The Raven, and the timing of it all, it makes sense. I'm going to assume since they were looking for a lone White that they were not going in a straight line from East watch, they were probably going back and forth in a zigzag (rip rickon) so Gendry running at full speed back to the wall, let's say that took about 4 hours. The trip from Castle black to Winterfell is about 600 miles (a little farther from East watch), a raven going full speed (28mph) could probably make that trip in a little over a day. From Winterfell to King's Landing is about A Thousand Miles according to Cersei in S5E6, so it would be about the same maybe a little more from Winterfell to Dragonstone. So let's say it takes the raven 4 days to get to Dragonstone. Dragons on the other hand, I couldn't find much info about how fast they can go. So for the sake of argument let's say they top out with a rider at about 175 mph. So that's about a 12-hour flight straight to Snow Team 6. So the overall time it takes Danny to get to Jon, is about 5 days. This makes sense considering that they had to wait for the ice to freeze over the lake again. Considering that the ice had to support a huge hoard of wights, the ice would have to be around 8 inches thick. Assuming an average temperature of 10 °F (they're not that far north) the ice would be growing at 1.5 inches per day. This works out to 7.5 inches of ice. Guys, the math works out."

[Goondal]

7 minutes ago, Arroz con Panther said:

In regards to the length of time they were on the island, this was posted on Reddit:

"tl;dr it took about 5 days for word to get to Dany and for her to get back to them. Which is about how long it would take for the ice to freeze enough to support the army of wights.

Regarding Gendry, The Raven, and the timing of it all, it makes sense. I'm going to assume since they were looking for a lone White that they were not going in a straight line from East watch, they were probably going back and forth in a zigzag (rip rickon) so Gendry running at full speed back to the wall, let's say that took about 4 hours. The trip from Castle black to Winterfell is about 600 miles (a little farther from East watch), a raven going full speed (28mph) could probably make that trip in a little over a day. From Winterfell to King's Landing is about A Thousand Miles according to Cersei in S5E6, so it would be about the same maybe a little more from Winterfell to Dragonstone. So let's say it takes the raven 4 days to get to Dragonstone. Dragons on the other hand, I couldn't find much info about how fast they can go. So for the sake of argument let's say they top out with a rider at about 175 mph. So that's about a 12-hour flight straight to Snow Team 6. So the overall time it takes Danny to get to Jon, is about 5 days. This makes sense considering that they had to wait for the ice to freeze over the lake again. Considering that the ice had to support a huge hoard of wights, the ice would have to be around 8 inches thick. Assuming an average temperature of 10 °F (they're not that far north) the ice would be growing at 1.5 inches per day. This works out to 7.5 inches of ice. Guys, the math works out."

Holy poo, that person put a lot of work into that.

[morjoy123]

I am not yet ready for this season to end, damn this spoilers on social media. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Goondal said:

That crap really has bothered me this season.  First Jaime and then Jon.  Should have just had the other dragon save him, or hell just have him jump on Drogon to begin with.  Between whatever he was doing last night and his actions against Ramsey he certainly is pretty damn stupid in the heat of battle.

Snow literally walks around with a magic dumpster now since he was brought back.  Battle of the bastards....they gave 2 "he is gonna now" moments.  Last night, they gave 2 more. 

[cookinbrak]

1 hour ago, Arroz con Panther said:

In regards to the length of time they were on the island, this was posted on Reddit:

"tl;dr it took about 5 days for word to get to Dany and for her to get back to them. Which is about how long it would take for the ice to freeze enough to support the army of wights.

Regarding Gendry, The Raven, and the timing of it all, it makes sense. I'm going to assume since they were looking for a lone White that they were not going in a straight line from East watch, they were probably going back and forth in a zigzag (rip rickon) so Gendry running at full speed back to the wall, let's say that took about 4 hours. The trip from Castle black to Winterfell is about 600 miles (a little farther from East watch), a raven going full speed (28mph) could probably make that trip in a little over a day. From Winterfell to King's Landing is about A Thousand Miles according to Cersei in S5E6, so it would be about the same maybe a little more from Winterfell to Dragonstone. So let's say it takes the raven 4 days to get to Dragonstone. Dragons on the other hand, I couldn't find much info about how fast they can go. So for the sake of argument let's say they top out with a rider at about 175 mph. So that's about a 12-hour flight straight to Snow Team 6. So the overall time it takes Danny to get to Jon, is about 5 days. This makes sense considering that they had to wait for the ice to freeze over the lake again. Considering that the ice had to support a huge hoard of wights, the ice would have to be around 8 inches thick. Assuming an average temperature of 10 °F (they're not that far north) the ice would be growing at 1.5 inches per day. This works out to 7.5 inches of ice. Guys, the math works out."

5 days on that rock with no heat source, they would have been frozen solid.

[Still Brooklyn]

WHO CARES.

Just enjoy the damn show.

[Moorgan]

1 hour ago, Arroz con Panther said:

In regards to the length of time they were on the island, this was posted on Reddit:

"tl;dr it took about 5 days for word to get to Dany and for her to get back to them.

While I appreciate the work that went into that, did anyone get the impression they were surrounded for 5 days? Seemed more like 1 Night to me. Not that I really care that much about time warps...that much.

[twylyght]

15 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

5 days on that rock with no heat source, they would have been frozen solid.

Not if Hound and Tormund cuddle.  Feel the love