There Is Offset Language In Christian McCaffrey's 4 Year Deal

[nctarheel0619]

35 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Unlike Bosa, McC is confident enough in his abilities that he knows the team will still want him in 4 years...

Bosa backed up his abilities as well last year.  Bosa was damn good before he was out for the season.  

[Lumps]

CMC to Broncos in three years confirmed

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Who could possibly care besides the player and the owner.

[panthers55]

Bosa was arguing against two items, not just offset language.
1) Offset language
2) Signing bonus derferment.
Chargers were asking him to agree to both, Offset language and signing bonus deferment.  Most top 10 pick contracts only have one or the other.

You are right and it was the deferred signing bonus which was the real issue. I doubt the offset language was the reason for the hold out.

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[panthers55]

He got 17 million and he doesn't turn 21 until June 7. He already has more money than most of us will make in a lifetime. I am sure he isn't worried about offset language in the 4th year. And I doubt he worries about being a bust.

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[Worm]

52 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I love CMC's confidence that it doesn't matter because it'll never come into play. I dislike the lack of confidence that we're showing in the guy we just spent the #8 overall pick on. You picked the kid. You believe in the kid. Put your money where your mouth is and give the kid his money guaranteed.

It's just business.  Has nothing to do with "lack of confidence".

[Albion Panthers]

I'm pretty new to the NFL (been following for a couple of years but only solidly in the last 12-18 months)

So for a complete noob what does this actually mean in simple terms lol

[LinvilleGorge]

40 minutes ago, Worm said:

It's just business.  Has nothing to do with "lack of confidence".

It has everything to do with lack of confidence. If you're confident in your investment, you don't need to hedge against it.

"It's just business" is a cop out. Of course it's business, it's a contract. It would've also been "just business" had CMC told Dave to go get bent and refused to sign a contract with offset language. But, CMC had the bigger balls and signed it anyway. I was a little torn on the kid at #8, but I'm all in now. He's gonna ball out.

[Worm]

13 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

It's really not. Bosa sat out for weeks because of the language.

 

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It has everything to do with lack of confidence. If you're confident in your investment, you don't need to hedge against it.

"It's just business" is a cop out. Of course it's business, it's a contract. It would've also been "just business" had CMC told Dave to go get bent and refused to sign a contract with offset language. But, CMC had the bigger balls and signed it anyway. I was a little torn on the kid at #8, but I'm all in now. He's gonna ball out.

The fact of the matter is that as an organization, as a business, if you can get language like this in a contract you do it.  Doesn't matter who the player is.  If you think the other party will accept language in a contract that protects YOU, you do it.  It is not one bit related to how you view them as a player.  If they weren't "confident in their investment" they wouldn't have taken the kid at #8.  Period.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Worm said:

 

The fact of the matter is that as an organization, as a business, if you can get language like this in a contract you do it.  Doesn't matter who the player is.  If you think the other party will accept language in a contract that protects YOU, you do it.  It is not one bit related to how you view them as a player.  If they weren't "confident in their investment" they wouldn't have taken the kid at #8.  Period.

You're still stuck in this "it's just business" mindset.

If you're confident in your investment, why do you need the offset language? Take "it's just business" off the table. The only real answer is to protect yourself against a poor pick.

I agree with you that if you can get the player to sign it without hassle then there's no reason not to, but I wouldn't have blamed CMC one bit if he refused to sign it. It's not accurate to say "it's just business" and act like this is commonplace for top 10 draft picks because it's not.

[Scrumtrilescent]

The language is pretty common on the first round of negotiations.  If they take it, great.  If not, they go on to round two.  Pretty common path for how a negotiation takes.  I'd be willing to bet they've put it out for every pick, but Luke and Cam had to negotiate it away.  No big deal.  I'd low ball my brother if it saved me money.  

[Worm]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You're still stuck in this "it's just business" mindset.

If you're confident in your investment, why do you need the offset language? Take "it's just business" off the table. The only real answer is to protect yourself against a poor pick.

I agree with you that if you can get the player to sign it without hassle then there's no reason not to, but I wouldn't have blamed CMC one bit if he refused to sign it. It's not accurate to say "it's just business" and act like this is commonplace for top 10 draft picks because it's not.

Anyone can be a bust.  Anyone can be a poor pick.  If you can protect yourself against that you do.

It's not specific to CMC at all.  They showed confidence by taking him at 8, that's it, that's all.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Worm said:

Anyone can be a bust.  Anyone can be a poor pick.  If you can protect yourself against that you do.

It's not specific to CMC at all.  They showed confidence by taking him at 8, that's it, that's all.

 

Hey man, I have a job I want to hire you to do. I have full confidence in the world in you to get it done, but if for whatever reason I decide to change course, you're going to have to pay me back the remainder of the money out of your next job's paycheck. We good?

[Saca312]

All I know is that @LinvilleGorge doesn't understand simple business negotiation.