Does anyone still think it is a Ruse?

[bleys]

Do what?????? You gotta be kidding me.

If you read what I said, I noted he was one guy on a new scheme, versus ours......so easy bro. I simply brought up the point that some people can go into a new scheme and pick it up that quickly, while we have a WHOLE team that can't. Sorry you don't understand that part of it.

This isn't about rep, so why bring it up? And needing to grow up, stay level headed? Insults?? Come on man.....I haven't insulted you, nor anyone unless they were on the team.

You have taken my post totally wrong. I could take yours wrong in my opinion, but no need to do that.

Also....I didn't start this thread.....I just responded. You may not be talking to me in all of your post, but it sure appears that way at first glance......"dude".

:cheers2:

My entire post wasn't directed towards you, "dude"... wow, wtf lol...... so all of that I read, I'll just ignore, since it was read wrong.. The one part I did address towards you was about the scheme and Seymour.. You said he picked up quickly on it, and I take it that why can't we pick up as quickly on ours.. As I stated before, I think he picked up on his 1 role easier than our 11 guys picking up on our scheme.. having 1 guy pick up on any scheme is going to be easier than having 11 pick up on any scheme.. If I missed your point, then correct me.. but that's how I interpreted your point.

WTF are you talking about? I was commenting on how ill founded those beliefs that Fox was orchestrating some elaborate plan to make the league think we sucked so he could surprise them in the Reg season. The problems that showed up in the preseason carried over to the reg season.

Every team in the league uses about the same formula for playing time in the preseason and plenty of those other teams come out in the regular season firing on all cylinders. And I meant more to the problems our starters displayed not the whole team. Our 1st string O scored what 1 td (a Houdini run by Dwill) I see those same struggles for TDs now.

And lastly I'm not out for blood just to be out for blood. I refuse to accept the crap that we have been forced to endure this season and for most of Fox's career here, inconsistency. But even worse this year it seems this team is literally unraveling at the seams. If your fine with watching the product the Panthers have been fielding recently so be it. But I for one refuse to accept mediocrity.

I don't know who exactly you read from that said Fox was trying to dupe the entire league so we came out not trying at all to play football, well I agree with you. But by the sound of it, perhaps you read too much into what some of those people were saying.. I did read your point wrong. However, I will add, our defense mostly came out in a basic formation and we didn't show our hand too much other than that basic formation... If you read that to mean we were trying to dupe the league, well, I have to assume you're reading too much into it. The poor tackling, etc... great point, it was going to transition into the reg season because that has to do with technique more than scheme and game planning. Most people's point was about scheme and game planning, which is why you through me off with this thread... THe game planning/scheme wasn't shown much. If you're only point was on tackling, then yes, you're right.. our fundamentals are lacking. The negative on that is we were hoping from Meeks words, we would work on that and improve.

[SMACKDAB]

My entire post wasn't directed towards you, "dude"... wow, wtf lol...... so all of that I read, I'll just ignore, since it was read wrong.. The one part I did address towards you was about the scheme and Seymour.. You said he picked up quickly on it, and I take it that why can't we pick up as quickly on ours.. As I stated before, I think he picked up on his 1 role easier than our 11 guys picking up on our scheme.. having 1 guy pick up on any scheme is going to be easier than having 11 pick up on any scheme.. If I missed your point, then correct me.. but that's how I interpreted your point.

Yeah...I didn't think it was after I went back and read it a second time. It's all good buddy. :cheers2:

New scheme....5 days off during the bye? Very complacent attitude towards it is what upsets me the most.

We all see it differently, and I guess that is why we do what we do, and they do what they do.

[panther4life]

the new scheme is no excuse.if its that hard to learn then you dont do it with an established team thats all in to the extent that they trade away the future 2 years in a row.and lets not forget about offense.we are sucking big time there and we've got all 11 starters from last year back on offense running the same plays we did last year

[2plankingpanther]

Fox is waiting til we go 0-6,then he is going to flip the switch and win the rest of the games,10-6,and make the playoffs!

[bleys]

the new scheme is no excuse.if its that hard to learn then you dont do it with an established team thats all in to the extent that they trade away the future 2 years in a row.and lets not forget about offense.we are sucking big time there and we've got all 11 starters from last year back on offense running the same plays we did last year

perhaps you're right...

however...................

reacting to a new scheme without much thought is easier said than done...

Everyone knew coming into this that the last 8 games should look better than the 1st 8 games... we are only 3 games into the season... Take it for what it's worth.

The tackling and over running of plays is the much bigger issue.. let's not confuse the 2...

[SMACKDAB]

Don't forget mini camp, training camp, 4 preseason games, and 3 regular season games.

Much longer than just 3 games into the season to work on this new sheme.

[bleys]

Don't forget mini camp, training camp, 4 preseason games, and 3 regular season games.

Much longer than just 3 games into the season to work on this new sheme.

there's no doubt our fundamentals suck... we need to tackle and not over run plays.

Pep has done a great job of over running plays... I still can't get Godfrey nearly breaking his ankles in the Cowgirl game out of my mind... I was standing up at that point in the game in shock how bad that was.. Granted, Felix Jones has some good stats going thus far, but damn...

there's no doubt, we need to "swarm to the ball" a little bit better than we have so far...

[bleys]

Don't forget mini camp, training camp, 4 preseason games, and 3 regular season games.

Much longer than just 3 games into the season to work on this new sheme.

there's no doubt our fundamentals suck... we need to tackle and not over run plays.

Pep has done a great job of over running plays... I still can't get Godfrey nearly breaking his ankles in the Cowgirl game out of my mind... I was standing up at that point in the game in shock how bad that was.. Granted, Felix Jones has some good stats going thus far, but damn...

there's no doubt, we need to "swarm to the ball" a little bit better than we have so far... I remember distinctly 3 (perhaps 4) players standing still as the cowgirl player proceeded to get a 1st down when we should have stopped him 4 yards before the 1st down marker...