Would you trade KB for a first next year?

[PantherProfessor]

21 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Yeah no team would give us a first but maybe a high second and third or fourth. 

I'd go for it. Benjamin is a huge disappointment. Even during his rookie season, he wasn't impressive to me. He got a lot of his plays in garbage time. I'm not interested in him being our #1 WR. Like Ealy, he's too childish and lazy.

Exactly.  Everyone hangs thier hat on his "dominating" rookie year. When, in reality Cam had zero other weapons and was force feeding him the ball 9/10 even when he wasn't open  

He accumulated a ton of those yards and touchdowns against prevent defenses when the game was already lost. The essence of padding your stats. 

He just doesn't seem to have the Killer instinct that elite guys have  

 

 

 

 

[WarHeel]

The dude put up very similar numbers one year removed from a blown ACL. I'll give him a pass for one more year and then Rivera and company can decide his fate.


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[Ken]

You guys writing the book on a player before training camp even starts is so laughable.

[LinvilleGorge]

As much as I'm disappointed, he's still the guy who did this

https://vine.co/v/OhlJBZIZq6Q

When you can go up against arguably he two best players in the NFL at their respective positions at that time as a rookie in crunch time of a close game and come down with that ball, you can absolutely be a special player in this league.

[uncfan888]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As much as I'm disappointed, he's still the guy who did this

https://vine.co/v/OhlJBZIZq6Q

When you can go up against arguably he two best players in the NFL at their respective positions at that time as a rookie in crunch time of a close game and come down with that ball, you can absolutely be a special player in this league.

Id love for him to get back to that. The weight  poo frustrates me though

[TheRed]

In the land of fairies and pixie dust we can get a 1st for KB, and a 3rd for Derek Anderson.

In real life, however...

[d-dave]

I will say those of you who think that we'd get anything for KB is funny.  There are some signs that he very well may not make it past training camp.

Personally, I'm holding out hope that he turns it around.  Maybe someone in the building pulls him into the locker room, gives him a box and says "You want to fill this up now?" Or some how gets it into his head that he's got a job to d, or else he'll be looking for another gig.  He wanted to be a Panther, right?  Time to prove it.

[truthjuice]

I def think this is a "prove" year for KB. I think he will be in shape by the time camp starts because it's make or break for him. 

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, uncfan888 said:

I would happily trade him for cooks.. So that should tell you who is more valuable

Cooks wasn't valued in New Orleans for a reason. He's fast for sure...that's pretty much it. He's arguably more one dimensional than Benjamin.

Now that we have Samuel (who I say will be a much more versatile weapon in the NFL after it's all said and done), we don't need Cooks. 

[uncfan888]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Cooks wasn't valued in New Orleans for a reason. He's fast for sure...that's pretty much it. He's arguably more one dimensional than Benjamin.

Now that we have Samuel (who I say will be a much more versatile weapon in the NFL after it's all said and done), we don't need Cooks. 

Well obviously now that we have Samuel, it's a moot point. I'm not talking about now

[AceBoogie]

1 hour ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

We went 15-1 and had the #1 offense without him. What in the fug are you talking about?

That was more about the greatness of Cam and the year the defense had especially with Josh Norman scoring points and creating opportunities for the offense. KB ain't going anywhere and suggesting it is dumb. He's a top 15 WR in this league and it's fuging MAY. We don't play until September come back and check in with me when his weight actually fuging matters. 

[Troys99x3]

NOPE. Not a chance. He will be here for years to come. He is a true red zone threat. Do you all remember that fire he brought in the playoff game vs Seattle even though we got our ass handed to us. He plays with a fire that no one else on offense does. He is uncoverable 1vs1. He'll open up a lot for Samuel and Olsen this year, and vice versa. I'm excited to see what this WR Core can do this year. It will be scary to see what they can actually do if Kalil and Williams/Moton can hold down the edges to give Cam time like he had in 2015. #KEEPPOUNDING

[Jmac]

If I recall he had the same issues at Florida State....both weight and reliability. No surprise.

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[d-dave]

12 minutes ago, stbugs said:

LOL. Signs that he won't make it past training camp. God, delusional is all that I can say. As TheRed said in another thread, it's May 1st.

Maybe we simply see things differently, but if you aren't happily picking up a 5th year like on Cam or Star, then that's a sign.  When you are showing up to camp overweight and the coach is calling that out in the national media, that's a sign.

Sure, maybe I'm prematurely ending his tenure in Carolina.  Maybe he does come in this July and light the world on fire.  Or he doesn't.  Does it matter if there is a reason why he's out of shape?