Adam Schefter Believes Tribusky Will Be The #1 Overall Pick

[CPcavedweller]

17 hours ago, ludwig51 said:

Man I'll still take fournette over Garrett 

I would take both Watson and Fournette over what the Browns are going to do. The Browns could take Fournette number one and take Watson at number 12. Follow the Cowboys model from last season, give Joe Thomas a fighting chance to go out a winner. It is a shame that the Browns are going to take Garrett and Trubinsky.

[CPcavedweller]

10 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Another thing just coming up is McCaffrey jumping Fournette as the first RB off the board because Fournette is like AP and doesn't fit in the shotgun happy NFL landscape like McCaffrey does. @-@

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McCaffrey is the type of running back in the mold of Dion Jones or White for New England, a guy that can be picked up after the draft if a team does their homework. 

[CPcavedweller]

17 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

As an alumnus, I've posted it before, but I don't get the Trubisky hype either.  When I watched him, I never thought "this is a first round talent."  Watson definitely has that "it" factor and I believe he's the best QB of this class.

The Browns are their own worst enemy. One has to wonder if the Browns don't continue to tank their draft classes to avoid high paying contracts so that the owners can line their pockets with the excess cash, as it's obviously not being reinvested in the team to make it better; Garret and Trubinsky selections instead of Fournette and Watson at 1 and 12 would assure that fact in my mind. Two real blue chip players versus two guys that has a ton of question marks. 

[CPcavedweller]

poo, the Browns could even take Fournette number 1 and take Jonathon Allen at 12 and still be better set. Instead of getting an edge rusher and not addressing the inside, make your current outside rushers better by taking a guy who could be one of the top pass rushing DT's in his first season. 

[Jimmy]

I'll say it again, the Browns are going to shoot themselves in the foot by drafting Trubisky at #1.  They should draft Garrett at #1, trade up to us for the #8 pick and still get Trubisky.  We get their #12 and a 2nd. We still get a hell of player and the ability to trade up to get back in the bottom of the first round. 

 

[CPcavedweller]

19 hours ago, emhoward said:

Taking a QB over a stud like Garrett is only a bad move if the QB busts. If you think the QB can be a franchise guy, you take him. 

Garrett, although a very important piece, isn't as valuable as a potential franchise quarterback. JJ watt maybe the best defender ever and no team would trade a top 10 QB for him. Russell Wilson, a average to good QB, has more value than Watt, the maybe GOAT defender.

If you like him take him. It truly baffles me how tems without a QB dont take at least two in every draft. 

 

 

That's assuming Garrett isn't a bust. Lots of assumptions in this argument. 

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

I'll say it again, the Browns are going to shoot themselves in the foot by drafting Trubisky at #1.  They should draft Garrett at #1, trade up to us for the #8 pick and still get Trubisky.  We get their #12 and a 2nd. We still get a hell of player and the ability to trade up to get back in the bottom of the first round. 

 

Why Trubisky? He couldn't break the starting line up at QB University UNC? All the things he does well that scouts like, he has probably been doing well for the years he rode the pine in college, however the coaches that saw it day in and day out didn't think he was good enough to start. Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson, playing in the same conference, shreds Alabama's defense twice on the biggest stage, has better stat's then Trubinsky, is rated lower? 

Garret, who gained 4.5 of his 11.5 sacks last season against a G5 team with a losing record, is ahead of the likes of Fournette, Adams, Watson, et al. All blue chip players. This stuff makes no sense to me and if it were anyone but the Browns, the correct pick would be made here: Fournette number 1, trade back to get picks and take Watson later in the first round. 

[Jimmy]

10 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Why Trubisky? He couldn't break the starting line up at QB University UNC? All the things he does well that scouts like, he has probably been doing well for the years he rode the pine in college, however the coaches that saw it day in and day out didn't think he was good enough to start. Meanwhile, Deshaun Watson, playing in the same conference, shreds Alabama's defense twice on the biggest stage, has better stat's then Trubinsky, is rated lower? 

Garret, who gained 4.5 of his 11.5 sacks last season against a G5 team with a losing record, is ahead of the likes of Fournette, Adams, Watson, et al. All blue chip players. This stuff makes no sense to me and if it were anyone but the Browns, the correct pick would be made here: Fournette number 1, trade back to get picks and take Watson later in the first round. 

Because no one is predicting/projecting that Cleveland is interested in drafting Watson...including the news coming out of Cleveland...that's why Trubisky.  As much as your argument holds water...it's a different argument in this context.

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

Because no one is predicting/projecting that Cleveland is interested in drafting Watson...including the news coming out of Cleveland...that's why Trubisky.  As much as your argument holds water...it's a different argument in this context.

I'm not saying "Why not Watson" in the context of why is there no news there. It's more of a rhetorical question that all logical and sane Browns fans must be asking themselves. We have the opportunity to pick a young Adrian Peterson and a National Championship winning QB that carved up Alabama's defense that is loaded with NFL talent all over, twice, on the biggest stage. It's ridiculous to me that the Browns aren't even considering this possibility. 

Joe Thomas will retire and it will take him 30 years to be inducted into the Hall just because of the Browns front office ineptitude that is on display every year. The smart thing for them to do would be to settle on the QB they want, realize its probably the wrong choice because they rarely make the right choice, and pick someone else. 

[CRA]

some players just know how to win.

You put Watson on a decent NFL team and you win games big picture. That simple.

[Jimmy]

35 minutes ago, CRA said:

some players just know how to win.

You put Watson on a decent NFL team and you win games big picture. That simple.

The Golden Calf of Bristol wants you to be his agent

[Bronn]

46 minutes ago, CRA said:

some players just know how to win.

You put Watson on a decent NFL team and you win games big picture. That simple.

FWIW I agree with you on this.

Trubisky is going to be good, probably. He's just a bit unproven to me.

Watson, on the other hand, just gets it done. If I ranked QBs, Watson would be my #1.

I think SF at 2, Chi at 3, Jax at 4, NYU at 6, Cin at 9, Buf at 10, Cle at 12, Az at 13 could all be landing spots for Watson, which is way ahead of where most mocks/projections have him.

[stankowalski]

On 4/26/2017 at 2:03 PM, d-dave said:

LOL, indeed.  The Browns!  But they have these "money ball" guys in charge, shaking up how a NFL team is run.  I can't see how you take anyone BUT the best player (by a wide margin) unless you know something no one else does.  Trubisky MIGHT become a good QB, he has the tools, but only 13 college games.  He couldn't even beat out Marquis Williams (of Mallard Creek fame), who was a camp body last year.

Unless you believe that Trubisky is the next coming of a franchise QB in your soul...

And Cam Newton couldn't beat out The Golden Calf of Bristol, we all see how that turned out.

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

And Cam Newton couldn't beat out The Golden Calf of Bristol, we all see how that turned out.

The Golden Calf of Bristol is one the GOATs of college football.  Tom Brady and Peyton Manning wouldn't of walked into Florida and taken his job on that team.  You can be a college GOAT and NFL doesn't mean diddly in that conversation.

and yes, some guys are just winners.  The Golden Calf of Bristol's game never fit as a NFL QB.  That was obvious from day 1.  He should of been a utility do everything guy but he didn't want that..and the media circus hounding him worked against him as well.