My Panthers Big Board top 152...

[Bronn]

I will probably continue watching some film and researching some of the guys further down the list, and edit accordingly by noon tomorrow, but here is what I think our board might look like right now. I stopped at 152 because it was getting pretty overwhelming, lol, and 152 is our 5th round pick.

Again, no positions that I don't think we'll give much value to (such as QB) are included, and there are a handful of guys that find themselves removed from the board completely.

If/when I get around to finalizing it tomorrow, I will post it in this thread.

1	Myles Garrett	DE
2	Jamal Adams	S
3	Solomon Thomas	DE
4	Leonard Fournette	RB
5	Marshon Lattimore	CB
6	Jonathan Allen	DL
7	Malik Hooker	S
8	Derek Barnett	DE
9	OJ Howard	TE
10	Christian McCaffrey	RB
11	Ryan Ramczyk	OT
12	Marlon Humphrey	CB
13	Haason Reddick	LB
14	Mike Williams	WR
15	Forrest Lamp	G
16	Corey Davis	WR
17	Reuben Foster	LB
18	Teez Tabor	CB
19	Zach Cunningham	LB
20	Charles Harris	DE
21	Taco Charlton	DE
22	Malik McDowell	DT
23	Quincy Wilson	CB
24	Takkarist McKinley	DE
25	Jabrill Peppers	S
26	Marcus Williams	S
27	Chidobe Awuzie	CB
28	Garrett Bolles	OT
29	David Njoku	TE
30	Raekwon McMillan	LB
31	Desmond King	CB
32	Fabian Moreau	CB
33	Budda Baker	S
34	Kevin King	CB
35	Dan Feeney	G
36	Obi Melifonwu	S
37	Tim Williams	DE/LB
38	Ethan Pocic	G
39	Alvin Kamara	RB
40	Gareon Conley	CB
41	Josh Jones	S
42	Adoree' Jackson	CB
43	Carl Lawson	DE
44	Dion Dawkins	G
45	Jourdan Lewis	CB
46	Roderick Johnson	OT
47	Dorian Johnson	G
48	Zay Jones	WR
49	Tre'Davious White	CB
50	Dalvin Tomlinson	DT
51	TJ Watt	DE
52	Justin Evans	S
53	Ryan Anderson	LB
54	Taylor Moton	G
55	Rasul Douglas	CB
56	Jordan Leggett	TE
57	Montravius Adams	DL
58	Demarcus Walker	DE
59	Jarrad Davis	LB
60	Dawuane Smoot	DE
61	Jordan Willis	DE
62	Marcus Maye	S
63	Cordrea Tankersley	CB
64	Carlos Watkins	DT
65	Carlos Henderson	WR
66	Pat Elflein	G
67	Tarell Basham	DE
68	Larry Ogunjobi	DT
69	Samaje Perine	RB
70	Howard Wilson	CB
71	Cooper Kupp	WR
72	Aviante Collins	G
73	Daeshon Hall	DE
74	Jamaal Williams	RB
75	Gerald Everett	TE
76	Taywan Taylor	WR
77	Evan Engram	TE
78	D'Onta Foreman	RB
79	Chris Wormley	DT
80	Damontae Kazee	CB
81	Trey Hendrickson	DE
82	Jake Butt	TE
83	Antonio Garcia	OT
84	Chris Godwin	WR
85	Jaleel Johnson	DT
86	Eddie Jackson	S
87	Duke Riley	LB
88	Anthony Walker	LB
89	Corn Elder	CB
90	Kareem Hunt	RB
91	Bucky Hodges	TE
92	Cameron Sutton	CB
93	Tyus Bowser	DE
94	Curtis Samuel	WR/RB
95	JuJu Smith-Schuster	WR
96	Josh Reynolds	WR
97	Brian Hill	RB
98	KD Cannon	WR
99	James Conner	RB
100	Ahkello Witherspoon	CB
101	Keionta Davis	DE
102	Vince Biegel	LB
103	Adam Bisnowaty	OT
104	John Johnson	S
105	Jalen Reeves-Maybin	LB
106	Isaac Rochell	DL
107	Tanoh Kpassagnon	DE
108	Carroll Phillips	DE
109	Isiah Ford	WR
110	Adam Shaheen	TE
111	Jeremy Cutrer	CB
112	Isaac Asiata	G
113	Julie'n Davenport	OT
114	Jeremy McNichols	RB
115	Donald Payne	S
116	Shaq Griffin	CB
117	Damore'ea Stringfellow	WR
118	Jon Toth	C
119	David Sharpe	OT
120	George Kittle	TE
121	Derek Rivers	DE
122	Elijah Qualls	DT
123	TJ Logan	RB
124	Lorenzo Jerome	S
125	Josh Carraway	DE
126	Jadar Johnson	S
127	Nate Hairston	CB
128	Jeremy Sprinkle	TE
129	Rudy Ford	S
130	Stanley Williams	RB
131	Sidney Jones	CB
132	Nazair Jones	DT
133	Tedric Thompson	S
134	Money Hunter	CB
135	Connor Harris	LB
136	Nico Siragusa	G
137	Montae Nicholson	S
138	Chad Wheeler	G
139	Vincent Taylor	DT
140	Channing Stribling	CB
141	Tanzel Smart	DT
142	Dylan Cole	LB
143	Noble Nwachukwu	DE
144	Marquel Lee	LB
145	Xaver Woods	S
146	Tarik Cohen	RB
147	David Jones	S
148	Speedy Noil	WR
149	Sojourn Shelton	CB
150	Rayshawn Jenkins	S
151	Fred Ross	WR
152	Amba Etta-Tawo	WR

I honestly can't wait until tomorrow night.

[shaqattaq]

Wow, that shows some serious commitment. 

Best name ever for a WR:

148

Speedy Noil

WR

[Ace_Aladdin]

whats your pick though?

[Daddy_Uncle]

Get a life

 

jk

 

 

[t96]

If you're going this deep, you need to include QB I think. Very possible we draft a later round QB to groom as Cam's backup. And it'd be a wise thing to do if we do it.

[Nails]

What a euphoric moment that would/will be if Fournette is gone and they take Barnett to the shock and awe of the clueless masses.

[Bronn]

Just now, thomas96 said:

If you're going this deep, you need to include QB I think. Very possible we draft a later round QB to groom as Cam's backup. And it'd be a wise thing to do if we do it.

Aside from the top 5 or so, I don't think there's much left in this draft. I don't think we'll get a top 5 QB because 3-4 of them could go round 1.

 

5 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

whats your pick though?

I've always been a Fournette guy, but I am getting cold feet for a multitude of ticky-tack reasons.

If we trade up (which I think and hope we don't) I think it will be for Garrett, Adams, or Thomas.

Adams is probably my favorite top 5 talent for the Panthers, although getting Garrett would be amazing with Pep back in town. I like both Thomas and Fournette pretty equally behind them.

I think Garrett goes #1, though. I do like both Adams and Thomas better than Fournette, but if they've vetted Leonard's durability and those rumors of him being "all about the fame" (which I don't really buy anyways, since all indicators are that he's pretty selfless and humble,) then I'd be happy with him too.

The only players I would move up for are Garrett, Adams, Thomas, and Fournette. In that order. That's my top 4 players in the draft. I wouldn't be too upset if we had to move up to get one of them, but there is talent at RB and S way later on in the draft.

I'd be happy with staying put and taking Allen, or trading down a bit in the Trubisky sweepstakes.

Anyway, it is incredibly hard to predict right now.
 

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, Nails said:

What a euphoric moment that would/will be if Fournette is gone and they take Barnett to the shock and awe of the clueless masses.

Outside of the top 3 DEs, there is a huge drop off. I think G-man even alluded to this as well.

As I said, I've always been a Fournette guy, but I'm just starting to worry about durability and am taking the point of RB being overvalued in the top 10 into consideration.

I think after Leonard, there is a dropoff at RB. McCaffrey isn't even on his level and he's my number 2. But good RBs can be had in the third round of this draft, and if one of the top 3 DEs or Allen, or a top DB is still on the board and Fournette is gone, I have no problem going with one of the defensive guys at 8.

Also, after the top 15 or so picks, I think there is an overall talent drop off. But the next 30-40 guys are all likely solid starting caliber guys. If we can move down and stay in the top 15 and pick up another second rounder, there is a lot of value in that, too.

[t96]

6 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Aside from the top 5 or so, I don't think there's much left in this draft. I don't think we'll get a top 5 QB because 3-4 of them could go round 1.
 

I think both Davis Webb and Josh Dobbs are possibilities later, and could definitely be groomed into solid career backups. And we've shown interest in both.

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

I think both Davis Webb and Josh Dobbs are possibilities later, and could definitely be groomed into solid career backups. And we've shown interest in both.

I think Dobbs is gone in the second or third. Most likely the second. There are teams out there that like him more than they are letting on, I think. Webb might not sneak out of the 3rd but, unless we plan on trading Derek Anderson or Joe Webb during the draft, I really don't think we take a QB that early. We have too many other needs, at least from a depth standpoint, to go after a project QB in this draft.

I think we might have brought both in to get some insight on their teammates (Cam Sutton, Alvin Kamara, Chad Hansen and a couple late round/UDFA OL from Cal) and to make other teams think we were looking at QBs.

[panther4life]

2 hours ago, Bronn said:

I will probably continue watching some film and researching some of the guys further down the list, and edit accordingly by noon tomorrow, but here is what I think our board might look like right now. I stopped at 152 because it was getting pretty overwhelming, lol, and 152 is our 5th round pick.

Again, no positions that I don't think we'll give much value to (such as QB) are included, and there are a handful of guys that find themselves removed from the board completely.

If/when I get around to finalizing it tomorrow, I will post it in this thread.

1	Myles Garrett	DE
2	Jamal Adams	S
3	Solomon Thomas	DE
4	Leonard Fournette	RB
5	Marshon Lattimore	CB
6	Jonathan Allen	DL
7	Malik Hooker	S
8	Derek Barnett	DE
9	OJ Howard	TE
10	Christian McCaffrey	RB
11	Ryan Ramczyk	OT
12	Marlon Humphrey	CB
13	Haason Reddick	LB
14	Mike Williams	WR
15	Forrest Lamp	G
16	Corey Davis	WR
17	Reuben Foster	LB
18	Teez Tabor	CB
19	Zach Cunningham	LB
20	Charles Harris	DE
21	Taco Charlton	DE
22	Malik McDowell	DT
23	Quincy Wilson	CB
24	Takkarist McKinley	DE
25	Jabrill Peppers	S
26	Marcus Williams	S
27	Chidobe Awuzie	CB
28	Garrett Bolles	OT
29	David Njoku	TE
30	Raekwon McMillan	LB
31	Desmond King	CB
32	Fabian Moreau	CB
33	Budda Baker	S
34	Kevin King	CB
35	Dan Feeney	G
36	Obi Melifonwu	S
37	Tim Williams	DE/LB
38	Ethan Pocic	G
39	Alvin Kamara	RB
40	Gareon Conley	CB
41	Josh Jones	S
42	Adoree' Jackson	CB
43	Carl Lawson	DE
44	Dion Dawkins	G
45	Jourdan Lewis	CB
46	Roderick Johnson	OT
47	Dorian Johnson	G
48	Zay Jones	WR
49	Tre'Davious White	CB
50	Dalvin Tomlinson	DT
51	TJ Watt	DE
52	Justin Evans	S
53	Ryan Anderson	LB
54	Taylor Moton	G
55	Rasul Douglas	CB
56	Jordan Leggett	TE
57	Montravius Adams	DL
58	Demarcus Walker	DE
59	Jarrad Davis	LB
60	Dawuane Smoot	DE
61	Jordan Willis	DE
62	Marcus Maye	S
63	Cordrea Tankersley	CB
64	Carlos Watkins	DT
65	Carlos Henderson	WR
66	Pat Elflein	G
67	Tarell Basham	DE
68	Larry Ogunjobi	DT
69	Samaje Perine	RB
70	Howard Wilson	CB
71	Cooper Kupp	WR
72	Aviante Collins	G
73	Daeshon Hall	DE
74	Jamaal Williams	RB
75	Gerald Everett	TE
76	Taywan Taylor	WR
77	Evan Engram	TE
78	D'Onta Foreman	RB
79	Chris Wormley	DT
80	Damontae Kazee	CB
81	Trey Hendrickson	DE
82	Jake Butt	TE
83	Antonio Garcia	OT
84	Chris Godwin	WR
85	Jaleel Johnson	DT
86	Eddie Jackson	S
87	Duke Riley	LB
88	Anthony Walker	LB
89	Corn Elder	CB
90	Kareem Hunt	RB
91	Bucky Hodges	TE
92	Cameron Sutton	CB
93	Tyus Bowser	DE
94	Curtis Samuel	WR/RB
95	JuJu Smith-Schuster	WR
96	Josh Reynolds	WR
97	Brian Hill	RB
98	KD Cannon	WR
99	James Conner	RB
100	Ahkello Witherspoon	CB
101	Keionta Davis	DE
102	Vince Biegel	LB
103	Adam Bisnowaty	OT
104	John Johnson	S
105	Jalen Reeves-Maybin	LB
106	Isaac Rochell	DL
107	Tanoh Kpassagnon	DE
108	Carroll Phillips	DE
109	Isiah Ford	WR
110	Adam Shaheen	TE
111	Jeremy Cutrer	CB
112	Isaac Asiata	G
113	Julie'n Davenport	OT
114	Jeremy McNichols	RB
115	Donald Payne	S
116	Shaq Griffin	CB
117	Damore'ea Stringfellow	WR
118	Jon Toth	C
119	David Sharpe	OT
120	George Kittle	TE
121	Derek Rivers	DE
122	Elijah Qualls	DT
123	TJ Logan	RB
124	Lorenzo Jerome	S
125	Josh Carraway	DE
126	Jadar Johnson	S
127	Nate Hairston	CB
128	Jeremy Sprinkle	TE
129	Rudy Ford	S
130	Stanley Williams	RB
131	Sidney Jones	CB
132	Nazair Jones	DT
133	Tedric Thompson	S
134	Money Hunter	CB
135	Connor Harris	LB
136	Nico Siragusa	G
137	Montae Nicholson	S
138	Chad Wheeler	G
139	Vincent Taylor	DT
140	Channing Stribling	CB
141	Tanzel Smart	DT
142	Dylan Cole	LB
143	Noble Nwachukwu	DE
144	Marquel Lee	LB
145	Xaver Woods	S
146	Tarik Cohen	RB
147	David Jones	S
148	Speedy Noil	WR
149	Sojourn Shelton	CB
150	Rayshawn Jenkins	S
151	Fred Ross	WR
152	Amba Etta-Tawo	WR

I honestly can't wait until tomorrow night.

Wow, thats incredible work man. I've watched the piss out of players on draft breakdown and I don't think I made it past 25 players or so. 

What methods did you use to come up with your rankings? How many players did you go back and watch games of?

[Catufb85]

good work and time on this thread. 

[Bronn]

31 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Wow, thats incredible work man. I've watched the piss out of players on draft breakdown and I don't think I made it past 25 players or so. 

What methods did you use to come up with your rankings? How many players did you go back and watch games of?

I YouTube a lot of stuff on pretty much everyone I can. All of them. I'd say my top 90 or so I have spent hours researching. I catch some college FB when I can, but it is harder nowadays.

I try to make mental notes of what all the "experts" say about guys, too, and what the Huddle says about some of them, but most of it is gut feeling from things I see on tape. It is easier on offensive skill positions, and harder on DBs. Highlight reels are not the greatest things to use, and it is a bonus if you can find every play a guy has in at least one or two games, so you see the average and negative stuff too.

One of the most fun things is watching a guy's highlight reel and another guy in the tape catching your eye... I've had that happen with some guys like Rasul Douglas. He wasn't so high on my radar until he started showing up doing good things in other guys' tape.

I think being a scout would be an awesome job. I like doing this kind of stuff as a hobby and football enthusiast. I can't imagine how awesome it would be to get paid for doing it.

[Oldschool Leroy]

Man, we could get 3 or 4 mind blowing good picks!