The Panthers will be 3-3

[Kevin Greene]

You don't think Santana Moss, Clinton Portis and Antwaan Randle-El count as weapons? Gotta disagree there.

I think Zorn is the source of a lot of their issues (Snyder of course beingt the ultimate problem).

Well Portis is averaging 60 yards a game, Campbell is the Skins 2nd leading rusher.

A tight end Cooley is there #2 pass catcher, so yeah, more help would be good.

[dimbee]

Skins, Bucs and Bills should all be wins. The Panthers are a better team than them. Look, the Panthers have played good teams so far this season... teams that right now are playing better football than the Panthers. The next 3 are not playing good ball. This is a fortuitous schedule for the Panthers, IMO. They get a bye week to get their poo straight, then get 3 poor teams to play and build up some confidence and momentum. Those two results can be huge in the NFL. The Panthers just need to nut up and get their heads out of their collective asses.

[2jakefansinva]

Skins, Bucs and Bills should all be wins. The Panthers are a better team than them. Look, the Panthers have played good teams so far this season... teams that right now are playing better football than the Panthers. The next 3 are not playing good ball. This is a fortuitous schedule for the Panthers, IMO. They get a bye week to get their poo straight, then get 3 poor teams to play and build up some confidence and momentum. Those two results can be huge in the NFL. The Panthers just need to nut up and get their heads out of their collective asses.

Excellent post Dim.

[jramsey4]

To play devils advocate we said the same things about Dallas.

[dimbee]

To play devils advocate we said the same things about Dallas.

Which was stupid.

[Carolina Mike]

Nope you are wrong we will be 4-3. The teams we have played the last 3 weeks are not bad teams. However the next four teams Redskins, TB, Bills and Ari are all struggling. Have you seen any of the next four teams that we play. I have and those teams are having same or worse issues then we are. Before you say "great win against the bad teams." First that is what you are suppose to do, and second that might give them some good mojo to start beating the better teams later in the schedule. All is not perfect but the Panthers are not out of it yet.

[jramsey4]

Which was stupid.

Not really they played terribly we just played significantly worse.

[dimbee]

Not really they played terribly we just played significantly worse.

To say the Panthers were better than the Cowboys was wrong, is what I was saying.

[jramsey4]

To say the Panthers were better than the Cowboys was wrong, is what I was saying.

IDK that it is. I do think we have better talent (just IMHO) we just got outcoached (which is sad because it was Wade Phillips). Maybe I'm wrong but I honestly believe with the right Coach and Scheme this team has all the talent to be a playoff contender year in and year out.

[dimbee]

The Panthers definitely have the talent to be a playoff team. There's no question about that. I really don't know what it is. I hope the offense is not losing confidence in Jake... if that happens, the bottom's going to fall out, and it's going to be monumental... John Fox needs Jake to succeed... likewise for Hurney. Jake now has that added pressure to his job- he has his job, his coach's job, and his general manager's job on his shoulders as well as his offense's success. Jake needs to get his mojo back. Right now, I cannot think of any other QB in the league that is carrying that king of weight on his shoulders...

[pstall]

I can see this. Like a thread I started on the Redskins game truly being the make or break game.

I agree dim and I think that's why the frustration level is so high. We all know the Panthers are much better than they have performed.

Getting clocked is one thing and I can live with that.

Beating yourself and making mistakes and allowing the other team too many chances to win adds up.

[grateflday]

I agree the Panthers could end up being 3-3. It still doesnt mean all the problems we have seen for far to long now wont rear its ugly head again. I can almost guarantee you it will. No matter what happens over the three or four games this Panther team will no doubt lose more games than win due to the poor defense, poor tackling, horrible special teams and possibly non productive offense. The offense is actually the one phase of the game that could actually salvage some games if it can every dominate like it did last year. But other than that, I see no better than 7-9 maybe 8-8 season. If they win any more games than that I will be surprised. I say this sadly, and like every season like this will have the false hope I am wrong.