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The Next Head Coach

Mr. Scot

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As you can tell from my sig I really like K. Butler and think he is the closest thing to Dick Lebuea (Defensive Mastermind) we will be able to get. I would rather him as DC but in order to get him here I think we would have to let him run the whole show. I would love him as our HC and maybe bring in Brian Billick as OC (that is of course if he doesn't get a HC job) or some other offensive coordinator that has HC experience to ease Butler into that job and not have him take on to much to quick. Let him focus on transtioning this D then he can learn the details that a HC needs.

I think this is our best option. He brings youth, exuberance, and one hell of a D scheme (Look back at the Steelers the last 7 years). He helped turn Harrison a Undrafted Rookie into one of the Best LB's in the league.

IDK about Keith Butler..seems like they have been grooming him to take over DC..and he may turn down a job..here but i def think we will pluck someone from the steelers in some form..maybe someone from scouting as a GM.

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My votes go to:

Gruden - Can turn a team around fast, and is not afraid to lose it all by risking a little, would allow at least Meeks, but possibly other assistants to stick around probably...

Rivera - I wanted him a while back for DC, so HC might be fine by me as well...

and... drumroll please....

This man...

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Yes... Kevin Greene...

He's just getting into coaching with the Packers (LB coach), but he'd bring a fire and energy that this team has been missing from it's coaching ranks since it's inception...

It's a long shot, but I just think it'd be awesome (even if it didn't lead to success on the field, at least at first)...

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My votes go to:

Gruden - Can turn a team around fast, and is not afraid to lose it all by risking a little, would allow at least Meeks, but possibly other assistants to stick around probably...

Rivera - I wanted him a while back for DC, so HC might be fine by me as well...

and... drumroll please....

This man...

greene_kevin.jpg

Yes... Kevin Greene...

He's just getting into coaching with the Packers (LB coach), but he'd bring a fire and energy that this team has been missing from it's coaching ranks since it's inception...

It's a long shot, but I just think it'd be awesome (even if it didn't lead to success on the field, at least at first)...

KG will be our next DC under Bill Cowher.

Charles Johnson and Everett brown will be meeting for lunch at the QB.

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I have to be honest that I'm a little wary of bringing in one of the older guys but then I considered what Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and Denver are going through right now and maybe this isn't the right wa to go. I know Rex Ryan is doing well but he may be more of an exception rather than the rule. I guess what it boils down to is the fact that this team's worst problem right now is coaching. I really feel like we have the talent to be 2-1 or even 3-0 at this point in the season but the team has come out really flat. An article I read made a good point that sometimes in a coaches career the players just stop listening and buying into what the coach says, I wonder if that is what is going on right now.

So here's my point in all this ramble. The coach needs to be someone who can turn around this franchise quickly and get it back on the right track. No more giving away future 1st rounders for 2nd round talent. No more overpaid players who under perform. And no more preference to drafted players who aren't performing. I think the best bet for the job is someone who can rebuild the COACHING staff and FO. Find a guy who can get the right people around him and change the mentality of this organization. Then when that guy is ready to step away one of the coaches around him can step up and take over.

I think thats the best way to go right now because we have talent to work with but not much a future to speak of. We have no QB to replace Jake (although Moore should get a shot), we have no 1st round pick next year (which should be a high one), we have the Julius Peppers situation to deal with, and we have several spots on the team that just don't have any answers depth wise (Safety, Corner, Offensive Line, Wide Receiver, and Defensive Tackle). We don't need to clean house or rebuild, we need someone to reconfigure the coaching staff and start preparing the team for the future (coaching and players).

Obviously I think the man for the job, love him or hate him, is Bill Cowher.

The mistakes that Tampa, KC and likely Denver have made is going with really young guys who've only been in their positions for a short space. They haven't really proven themselves (though with Haley you could somewhat argue it). They're just the hot thing of the moment.

Essentially, it's the same mistake the Jags made getting Del Rio after only one year as a DC.

This, by the way, is why I have trouble getting behind the idea of Sean McDermott. Jason Garrett too, though it's also true that Garrett is an offensive coach and Richardson has shown no inclination to hire someone of that profile.

Rivera, Ryan, Frazier and Grimm have each been doing their thing for a good while now. And yes, Grimm is an offensive mind too, but the caveat with him is that he comes from the Steeler tree and advocates an extremely tough, physical approach.

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A couple of names that I haven't seen that I think should be considered.

Brian Schottenhymer - Same peteigree as the Ryan brothers. I also really like his style of offense.

Mike Nolan - I really thought Nolan got a bad rep for what was going on in San Fran. For the most part, he brought the 49er's out of the funk they were in and almost got them back to a successful franshise. I felt the mistakes there were more the FO fault and Nolan became the scapegoat. Now he seems to have turned a Denver defense that was horrible into a productive group, albeit not dominate.

Urban Meyer - Yeah, I already know what everyone is going to say. But here is my reasoning. I see Meyer as not only a winner but within the same mindset as Jimmie Johnson had when he came out of Miami to Dallas. Also, if you like Bill Bilichick then Meyer is the closest guy to that style of coaching. Belichick considers Meyer, above all of his other assistants and coordinators, to be his protegie.

Bill Parciels - He's getting up there in years and doesn't seem to want to go back to coaching but reports have said that like always he is looking for his next new project and is growing tired of the celebity show in Miami. More than any other retread, including Cowher, this is the guy you want to bring fire back to a team and comes with the greatest of reputations. Definently not a long term solution as a HC but the system in which he would bring could set the franshise up for years to come as it has for many other teams.

I almost put Brian Schottenheimer in the list, but didn't for the same reason I left Jason Garrett out (offensive coaches, see above on why Grimm is an exception). Kurt Schottenheimer (Marty's brother) is the defensive mind, but his resume' as a coach doesn't exactly jump out at you.

I could see taking a look at Brian, but I don't see Richardson changing his preference for defensive coaches.

Fireball had the answer on Nolan (better DC than head coach; loved the suit thing though).

Considered discussing Meyer, but I really don't think the Panthers would look to the college ranks (don't think they've ever even interviewed a college guy for head coach). I also don't think he has any plans to leave Florida, and why should he really? He has it made there.

Parcells? I can't get behind being part of his resume' of temp jobs. With that said, I think he'll be in Miami for longer than he was in his previous stints.

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The only retreads I would support are Cowher and Gruden (assuming that Dungy stays in retirement).

Cowher simply fits...he comes from the Steelers system, he lives in NC, etc. I think the best thing about bringing him here is the attitude he brings with him. The players would be excited to play for him, he would invigorate the organization, and that's what I think we need right now. We have the talent to win games, but the coaches just don't inspire this team anymore.

Gruden is a long shot but he also brings the kind of 'tude that would give our currently vanilla team the swagger that it needs. Whenever he is a commentator for the Panthers he cannot stop raving about the team. He recognizes the talent and the potential we have and I think he would love to coach here.

Other than these two I would seriously prefer a younger HC. Jason Garrett would be my first choice here. A young, first time HC with a veteran coordinator (like Holmgrem) could work out very well.

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I almost put Brian Schottenheimer in the list, but didn't for the same reason I left Jason Garrett out (offensive coaches, see above on why Grimm is an exception). Kurt Schottenheimer (Marty's brother) is the defensive mind, but his resume' as a coach doesn't exactly jump out at you.

I could see taking a look at Brian, but I don't see Richardson changing his preference for defensive coaches.

Fireball had the answer on Nolan (better DC than head coach; loved the suit thing though).

Considered discussing Meyer, but I really don't think the Panthers would look to the college ranks (don't think they've ever even interviewed a college guy for head coach). I also don't think he has any plans to leave Florida, and why should he really? He has it made there.

Parcells? I can't get behind being part of his resume' of temp jobs. With that said, I think he'll be in Miami for longer than he was in his previous stints.

Just throwing out names that I haven't seen being discussed.

Nolan, however, I really like and is someone that I think could still be a good HC in the NFL. And considering all of the other names mentioned he is the one that would end up being the most "What? Why him?" factor if he was hired and that goes along with the M.O. of the organization.

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