The Next Head Coach

[Mr. Scot]

It is important to have a coach win games regardless of scheme..If you cant teach the players to execute any scheme and have the passion and drive to pull through adversity then you are worthless as a coach.

Understand the logic, but then how do you figure a guy like Dick LeBeau?

[Sultan33g]

Understand the logic, but then how do you figure a guy like Dick LeBeau?

good point, I just figure with him that it is not just the scheme but also his 50 years of NFL experience. Plus how all or most of his players believing in his scheme and believing in him as a coach. The Steelers just seem to play way harder for him then I see 95% of other teams.

[scpanther22]

my only thing is how is Leslie Frazier without the williams wall and jAllen...those players would make any DC..job easy

[Dpantherman]

my only thing is how is Leslie Frazier without the williams wall and jAllen...those players would make any DC..job easy

it goes both ways. you can't have all talent and sorry coaching, and you cant have great coaching and no talent. there is a medium. I think Fraizer, Zimmer, and yes, even Jon Gruden would be good candidates.

but lets finish the season first.

[Spike]

Bobby Petrino. Do it.

[scpanther22]

Brings up a question from an article I read questioning Rivera's ability to coach 3-4.

Is it important to have a coach who can adapt to coaching multiple systems (3-4, 4-3, etc) or is having a coach who is a winner using a single system good enough?

I would love to have a DC that can run a Hybrid scheme 4-3/3-4....The thing is if peppers leaves johnson and Brown will be are starters IMO..and Meeks knows how to get the best out of undersized DE.

[Fireball77]

And Zimmer can coach both 4-3 & 3-4.

I am warming up to this choice ...a lot.

[scpanther22]

And Zimmer can coach both 4-3 & 3-4.

I am warming up to this choice ...a lot.

you mean Mike Zimmer.?if so not saying he is too old but he is 53 now..and i think the panthers will go younger for a new coach

[mountainpantherfan]

you mean Mike Zimmer.?if so not saying he is too old but he is 53 now..and i think the panthers will go younger for a new coach

Good point. I agree with Fireball though. Zimmer is / has been a really good DC and seems to be very versitle and knowledgable. Players respect him as well. When a coach has more experience you are better able to judge him based on multiple situations. I really like Frazier but like it has been discussed, he's young and hard to judge his coaching.

[Snake]

yea do people realize belichick dresses like a Somalian for the games? I'm not concerned much about it either.

I'm still keeping mcdermott on the top of my watch list. I think attacking 4-3s are on the rise, and we already have a good blitzing linebacker in davis. The only problem is he's blown his only shot at some real competition so far, he'll need to redeem himself against some of the better offenses

I think he is a good DC at the moment but I would not hire him as a coach after one year as a DC. He still needs time.

Brings up a question from an article I read questioning Rivera's ability to coach 3-4.

Is it important to have a coach who can adapt to coaching multiple systems (3-4, 4-3, etc) or is having a coach who is a winner using a single system good enough?

I think its better to have a coach who can run a hybrid defense because you can adjust to injuries better and the Panthers are set up to play a hybrid Defense. Still its not a requirement and there are more successful single system coaches.

Understand the logic, but then how do you figure a guy like Dick LeBeau?

LeBeau is a jam up DC but not a very good head coach. Or thats why he record implies. His Head coaching job was so short lived though Im not sure how strong his system is out of the Steel city.

And Zimmer can coach both 4-3 & 3-4.

I am warming up to this choice ...a lot.

Im not sold on Zimmer yet. It is true he has coached both but Im not sure thats what he prefers to do. It seems like leans to the 4-3 and thats not bad at all for us but if you want a coach to run both Im not sure he is your guy.

[thefuzz]

Brings up a question from an article I read questioning Rivera's ability to coach 3-4.

Is it important to have a coach who can adapt to coaching multiple systems (3-4, 4-3, etc) or is having a coach who is a winner using a single system good enough?

IMO, the 3-4 is much harder to coach, and to draft for. But it is the D that I would want to run if I were coaching. I will have a good feel for him by the end of the season, if it's Williams being gone, or his inability to pick up the 3-4. It would have been nice for him to have been the LB coach under Wade, rather than Cottrel, I think that could have made the world of difference in his style of play calling.

[magnus]

Ideally I like a pro multiple like the earlier Pats defenses or the mid-80s/early 90s 49ers defenses, but I think it's important given the young talent on this team that we don't abandon the 4-3 for the gimmick of the 3-4. We have a couple people that fit, and suddenly instead of one DT, we need 3 and an OLB. Not interested in a total retool.

So I like a guy who can be flexible, but 95% of the league makes it on one scheme just fine.

Like the new additions. Zimmer is a solid thought.

[frash.exe]

I think he is a good DC at the moment but I would not hire him as a coach after one year as a DC. He still needs time.

He's been in Philly's system for years, held multiple positions and did well in every single one.

here's his profile page on the Eagles' website.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/coach_mcdermott_1.html

[magnus]

McDermott is a little overblown because so many here wanted him as DC, but there are some major positives.

Aggressive 4-3, but it's still a 4-3.

He has a west coast background, which might fit well with us, but isn't an old, grizzled coach set in what he did in 1993. If he got a veteran offensive guy and a fairly wild QBs coach, he could be in good shape on offense.

Speaking of the Eagles, Pat Shurmur is a guy with some cred. He's a highly tenured QBs coach in a system that gives QBs coaches some power.

But that he didn't get the OC job might hurt him a little. Other young guys have gotten a chance around him.