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Fox 2009 vs. Seifert 2001


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I was looking at the Footballoutsiders.com and after 3 weeks, the Panthers rank 31st overall. They rank 31st on offense, 26th on defense and 31st on ST. Only Cleavland is playing worse than the Panthers right now. That got me thinking so I looked up the rankings for 2001-Seifert's last year.

They were ranked 26th overall: 31st on offense, 21st on defense and 3rd on ST. Numerically the numbers are:

-------------Total---OFF--DEF---ST

Fox 2009 -29.5, -34.6, 23.6, -7.9

Seifert 2001 -25.5, -29.6, -.09, 4.6

(Offensively, positive numbers are better; defensively, negative numbers are better; ST, positive is better)

So what does this mean--it means Seiferts 1-15 Panthers from 01 would more than likely beat Fox's 0-3 Panthers if they played today.

Of course these are just numbers but they do give an indication of just how badly the Panthers are playing right now.

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This is what we fans have sunk to...comparing John Fox to George Siefert.

Actually, I only compared the 2001 team standings to the 2009 standings. As much as I am disappointed with the season, I still have an immense amount of respect for Fox and would never compare him to Seifert.

There is no doubt that the Panther's best years have been under Fox. He took the franchise from a state of ridicule to one of respectability. And regardless of how disappointing the season winds up, I will always have nothing but the utmost respect for him.

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after seifert was let go i remember Richardson saying something in the press conference about how the team had lost its fire (not sure if that's the exact quote) and he hoped a change would give them a spark.

looking at this team so far. it seems the same thing may have happened again. i have a ton of respect for fox and I'm willing to bet hell have no trouble finding a new hc job. but i just dont think the team is buying into what hes selling anymore.

i realize a overhaul of the coaching staff isn't always the answer. and can set a team back. but it in this situation i feel its needed. this team needs a new attitude. someone to re-light the fire. and IMO a new coach with new ideas is what its gonna take.

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