We can't have all the best guys on our lists... So... Get to know some similar alternative targets for later rounds...

[top dawg]

57 minutes ago, 15 said:

you're trying to compare shoplifting to buying a stolen laptop without knowledge of it being stolen and then trying to cover it up.

 

I'm pretty sure you were also one of the guys trying to justify what Joe Mixon did. that's all that needs to be said to show where your heads at. 

The Mixon thing doesn't have anything to do with this. And just because you say Cam didn't know it was stolen doesn't make it so. 

You obviously are the one making a deal out of this. Not me. So whatever.

[top dawg]

Furthermore 15, I wasn't trying to justify anything, just discussing the difference between a history of bad behavior vs bad judgment. Reading comprehension is a bitch!

[Ace_Aladdin]

2 hours ago, Bronn said:

In a fantasy world, the Panthers would be able to draft a combination of everyone's favorite players. Imagine injecting our offense with both Leonard Fournette AND OJ Howard... or somehow getting Jamal Adams AND Derek Barnett or Solomon Thomas to reinforce our beastly defense.

There's a remote chance that we could mortgage the future a bit (if Gettleman and Rivera's seats are getting warm) and make this fantasy a reality this year, with some folks thinking we're going to want to move around a bit in the draft.

I don't think it will happen, at this point, so I think we all need to take a step back towards a more realistic scenario, and look at some later round players that bring some of the same skills to the table as some of the players we're currently drooling over in the first round.

At DE, our first round targets likely include Solomon Thomas (my #3 overall player) and Derek Barnett (my #9.)  DE is kind of a sticky spot this year, as we could really use another starting caliber guy to add to our rotation, but there is a big dropoff after the first 5 or so players in the first round. Lots of people like known later-round guys like Tanoh Kpassagnon, but here are a couple guys I have my eyes on.

Trey Hendrickson pretty much showed up at both the Shrine Game and the Combine. His stock is probably going to be higher than most people think. He might even be a second or third rounder on some teams' boards, and I could see him taken in the third. He's comparable to Barnett, without the pass rush flashiness shown, but with the capability of generating it.
 

 

Another DE I am watching is Keionta Davis, from Chatanooga. He has all the tools to be a great 4-3 DE, much like Solomon Thomas does. But Davis is way more raw and unrefined. If you watch Davis' tape vs. Alabama (Cam Robinson) and Thomas' tape vs. UNC, you can see some eerie similarities. Davis is another late rounder, most likely going in the 5th. Some teams would take him earlier, though.
 

To round out the DL prospects people have us taking at #8, we have Jonathan Allen. Once thought to be in play for #1 or #2 overall (may still be,) he's already experienced a projected fall in most prognosticators' eyes. A late round guy I like with a similar frame and flexibility I like is Isaac Rochell, from Notre Dame. He's a rotational guy who can play any spot on the front four, which is something I think teams like the Panthers will covet. He's raw and needs some time, but he could be a gem as well. I think he's creeping up some boards because teams see the tools and the potential there.
 

My favorite player in the draft this year is Jamal Adams. I don't really think that the Panthers will have a chance to get him, so I have tried not to get too hyped. There is also a lot of talent at Safety in this year's draft, so I expect us to devalue the ones behind Adams a bit anyways. I've sung it here a bunch already, and most sites are still clueless, but the closest player to Jamal Adams in this draft, in my book, is Donald Payne from Stetson. Adams is more an all-over-the field roaming safety that is strong in run support. Payne is more of the same with a little more lean towards outside rusher than inside-the-box, although I believe the ability is there. Payne is a tackling monster, and had over 500 of them in four years. If he gets his hands on you, you're probably going down. At this point, he's probably a 7th rounder or UDFA due to sheer non-media coverage and depth of bigger school guys in front of him, but he is a guy I want on my football team.
 

Also in the defensive backfield, I think Marlon Humphrey is a guy I and a few others here respect more than the mainstream media. He's up there in the discussion with the best CBs in this draft. I've seen some drafts mock him to us at #8. I doubt it happens with us triple dipping the position last draft, but we could get a comparable DB in the later rounds. Here's another guy I have sung the praises of in the past. John Johnson out of Boston College is more of a CB in my eyes than a Safety, but I'd like to bring him in to possibly play either. He has pretty good coverage skills, and is a great tackler and in run support. IIRC he played both positions at BC and did well. Mechanics wise, he reminds me a bit of Josh Norman. He's very athletic, and has a lot of potential. He could come off the board as early as round 4.
 

 

OJ Howard has been one of the main hype-trains in these parts, and rightfully so. He has great size and speed, and everything you ask for in the perfect TE in our offense. A guy I think has a similar skillset that is being overlooked by some is Jeremy Sprinkle. He has the size and the hands and, almost as importantly, the blocking skills. He's a little slower than Howard, but Sprinkle would be almost as good in our offense. He might slide to the 4th or 5th due to the talent ahead of him, so he could be a steal if we got him even later.
 

Now, to the position everyone has been waiting for... RB! Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey have arguably been the talk of the town for Carolina in the first round. Both backs bring different tools to the table, but I think both will have success in the NFL. Fournette is the more punishing, all around back while McCaffrey is more of an athletic hybrid that is a threat to catch out of the slot or backfield or rip off a long run when nobody's expecting it. I've touted both the following guys before, but I think folks are still sleeping on them. Both could go anywhere from rounds 3-7, and I would love for us to have either (or both!) if we miss out on one of our top choices. Brian Hill is more the all around-punishing/cutting back (I think he cuts better than Fournette but lacks some of the power) and Logan is more of a RB than McCaffrey's WR.

:36 seconds into this one and you've got a Fournette-clone run over

 

Logan is a little smaller than McCaffrey, but offers similar agility and elusiveness, and good hands out of the backfield.
 

So... There you have it. Even if we miss out on your personal favorite round one target, take comfort in knowing that there are other options out there later in the draft. While they may not offer the notoriety or star power that the big name guys do, there are guys out there that will be good football players in the NFL.

 

Jeremey Sprinkle is my #3 TE behind 

Howard & Leggett

[KB_fan]

Fantastic write up.  I'll enjoy researching some of these players.   A few of them I started learning about a week or so ago when i was reviewing the draft prospects we've met with this offseason...

 

2 hours ago, Bronn said:

Also in the defensive backfield, I think Marlon Humphrey is a guy I and a few others here respect more than the mainstream media. He's up there in the discussion with the best CBs in this draft. I've seen some drafts mock him to us at #8.

I don't think I'd ever heard of this guy (I don't watch college ball) until a few days ago when I was reviewing mock drafts and shocked to see this guy I'd never heard of showing up on several mocks at #5 for Tennessee.  Another CB I'm starting to see talked of more is Gareon Conley.

[SmokinwithWilly]

6 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

 

Jeremey Sprinkle is my #3 TE behind 

Howard & Leggett

All I keep hearing is Robin Williams saying "It's Mr. Sprinkles."

[KB_fan]

Of the guys on your list, I believe we've had confirmed contact with two:

DE Isaac Rochell

TE Jeremy Sprinkle

 

[Bronn]

2 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Fantastic write up.  I'll enjoy researching some of these players.   A few of them I started learning about a week or so ago when i was reviewing the draft prospects we've met with this offseason...

 

I don't think I'd ever heard of this guy (I don't watch college ball) until a few days ago when I was reviewing mock drafts and shocked to see this guy I'd never heard of showing up on several mocks at #5 for Tennessee.  Another CB I'm starting to see talked of more is Gareon Conley.

Humphrey has been pretty high for me for a while. He's up there with Teez Tabor for me as one of the best zone coverage corners in the draft. Both would be excellent fits in our system, and Humphrey would be the perfect fall back option if we get stuck at #8 with Adams, Fournette, Thomas, etc. off the board. Lots of people are underrating him.

Conley has been getting a lot of hype on some sites. I'm not sold, but he's another good starting caliber corner.

Another guy I have been pretty high on lately is Rasul Douglas out of West Virginia.

I don't get to watch much WVU games like I used to when Noel Devine and Tavon Austin were there, but Douglas has stood out to me when I have been watching tape on other guys, lol. So I went and started looking at Douglas' tape, and realized he should be ranked higher than most sites/critics are giving him credit for. He has a big frame too.

Another guy I didn't include in this list that most people are underrating is Josh Reynolds, WR out of Texas A&M. I think he could be a Mike Evans/VJax type in the NFL if he beefs up a bit.

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, 15 said:

the fact you still talk about that part of Cam's best shows where your head is at. period. 

Stupid!