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"McCaffery at 8 would be a reach and waste of a pick."

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12 hours ago, Clipper said:

This is absurd. Following the Albert Means scandal, the NCAA placed Alabama on probation in February 2002 for the 2002-2006 seasons, banned them from bowl games for two years, and docked 21 football scholarships from the program. The program was in the toilet. Alabama hired Shula in 2003 when a lot of people did not want anything to do with that school. He did a great job there considering what he was dealing with, including reaching #3 in the polls at one point late in the 2005 season. But no, since it's Mike Shula, of course you have to jump on the bandwagon and call him a failure.

 All this. Plus, when the head of the NCAA infractions says your school is "staring down the barrel of a loaded gun", even Bama takes a pause on buying players. And they had to hire Shula in May of 2003, after Mike Price decided to go full "Hangover" one night shortly after he was hired. That job was toxic at the time. When the repeat offender window ended in 2007, suddenly the Kelly Blue Book value at the athletic complex parking lot shot through the roof and Bama has had the #1 recruiting class every year since. But I'm sure that's all Saban. Who had the same record as Shula's last year in his first year.  

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Mage Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He will be top 10 to top 15.. put money on that..

Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if he fell hard.

His film is not that good.  He is going to need a lot of technique work in the NFL, right now he only has one move and it is about the worst one move for a pass rusher to have, especially one who isn't overly athletic.

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18 hours ago, ladypanther said:

Do you have any evidence to back this up?  Has Shula had such a player here before? Or are you just hating?

Don't consider myself a Shula hater, but it is my fear as well. I like CM but Shula has been very predictable with his offensive play calls. In 2015 we had success due to how often Cam came to the line and audibled. We didn't do that nearly as much in 2016. Also: 

1. Bubble screens to Bersin

2. Long developing routs on 3rd and short

3. Refusal to adjust game plan when things aren't working. IE Superbowl and not helping tackles more. 

4. Overcompensating on play calls. Too often I have seen us try to run out the clock early in the 4th and run 3 times in a row. It doesn't work. So Shula overcompensates and on the next drive passes 3 times in a row. 

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WOW!! Grand Master

WOW!!

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54 minutes ago, Mage said:

Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if he fell hard.

His film is not that good.  He is going to need a lot of technique work in the NFL, right now he only has one move and it is about the worst one move for a pass rusher to have, especially one who isn't overly athletic.

Hahahahaha.. His flim and production are better than Pep, Mario Williams and Freeney coming out.. His technique and hand fighting ability is his best attirbute.. He has shown way more than one move.. You might need to actual watch a film or read a draft breakdown before posting..

His minus are the measurments.. He's not a perfect physical freak..

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-derek-barnett-edge-tennessee/

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/04/derek-barnett-nfl-draft-scouting-report

Takes some time to read before posting your opinion again..

 

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Hahahahaha.. His flim and production are better than Pep, Mario Williams and Freeney coming out.. His technique and hand fighting ability is his best attirbute.. He has shown way more than one move.. You might need to actual watch a film or read a draft breakdown before posting..
His minus are the measurments.. He's not a perfect physical freak..
https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-derek-barnett-edge-tennessee/
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/04/derek-barnett-nfl-draft-scouting-report
Takes some time to read before posting your opinion again..
 

Hahaha ur real funny. Ur like the only Barnett fan on here. Are u a Tennessee fan or something.

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1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

$25.00 on him being top 15.. Step up or shut up..

Cincinnati supposedly really likes him at 9.

I just don't see it. He seems like a very solid complimentary pass rusher. His physical attributes do not suggest he will be able to consistently and quickly disrupt at the NFL level. 

Love his effort though.  He won't fail for lack of trying.  Think the debate is about his ceiling rather than his floor.

 

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WOW!!

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5 minutes ago, uscgamecocks said:

Cincinnati supposedly really likes him at 9.

I just don't see it. He seems like a very solid complimentary pass rusher. His physical attributes do not suggest he will be able to consistently and quickly disrupt at the NFL level. 

Love his effort though.  He won't fail for lack of trying.  Think the debate is about his ceiling rather than his floor.

 

Not everybody can be a physical freak and I'd rather have the effort techniclly sound guy..

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