Cam Newton A Top Tier QB; Matt Ryan A Second Tier QB

[Saca312]

Looks like some people are finally getting the fact Matt Ryan benefited from an elite OC, legit weapons at WR and TE, and a top tier o-line and running game. They do not believe last season warranted him to become a top tier QB, since it's obvious his supporting cast was the one that made him look good - not the other way around.

However, what was surprising was the fact they still believe in Cam. Normally, the media would take the obvious bone-headed notion and bash on him while ignoring his surrounding cast, but they still have him as a top tier QB.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-qb-tiers-from-franchise-guys-to-just-guys-where-your-likely-starter-ranks/

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Tier 1: Bona fide franchise quarterbacks

2016: Tom Brady , Aaron Rodgers , Ben Roethlisberger , Russell Wilson , Cam Newton 
2017: Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Wilson, Newton, Drew Brees

 

I struggled with where to put Brees a year ago and after much hand wringing I barely slotted him in Tier 2, with concerns about Father Time catching up to him and how much the New Orleans Saints had to throw the ball from behind and what that might mean for his health moving forward. But he should’ve been in this group all along and he showed it again in 2016. I’m giving Newton a mulligan because he had no offensive line and other teams were allowed to assault him, beginning with the opener in Denver a year ago.

Tier 2: Top pros, proven winners

2016: Brees, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning , Philip Rivers , Carson Palmer
2017: Matt Ryan, Manning, Rivers, Derek Carr , Matthew Stafford, Romo

I’ve long been bullish on Carr, and his MVP-like campaign hastened his ascent from Tier 3 (rising stars) to this list. It won’t be long before he is in the top tier. Stafford’s game has improved since joining up with coordinator Jim Bob Cooter and cutting down on some mistakes. I still believe Romo can be a very high-end starter if given the chance, though this obviously could be his last stand. Will Ryan drop off some after losing coordinator Kyle Shanahan to the San Francisco 49ers and losing the Super Bowl in dramatic fashion? Regardless, barring a total flop he belongs in this tier.

Discuss.

Oh, and the Failcons Blew A 25 Point Lead in the Superbowl.

[therealmjl]

#FactsOnly

[tiger7_88]

Don't read the comments.

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Don't read the comments.

Ever

[Cary Kollins]

JLC keeping it 100 as always

[Cary Kollins]

lol the comment section

a bunch of grown men vehemently arguing about a sports writer's "QB tier" rankings

 

God bless the human race.

[nctarheel0619]

2 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

lol the comment section

a bunch of grown men vehemently arguing about a sports writer's "QB tier" rankings

 

God bless the human race.

 

Any positive Cam article at this point will have these comments.  It is, what it is.  

[therealmjl]

The pitchforks come out in the few and far between times an article praising Newton is published.

[CarolinaSamurai]

My favorite criticism of Newton are the comments and the taken out of context statements. Is anything said about Cam not taken out of context these days?

Look at Rivera's confidence statement every news org jumped on "is cam no longer confident in his abilities?" We all know Rivera meant he wasn't confident in his protection so he didn't set his feet or made bad decisions and that's totally understandable given the Oline injuries. You'd be unconfident too if your left tackle was Mike fing Remmers.

Yet people will always take any chance to dismiss him because he represents a change in the league from a typical old style QB to a new different kind. Race aside, the even scarier part to them is how close Cam has come to proving the new kind of QB is able to win it all and that kind of change worries people. 

I look forward to this team getting over that hump and blowing the league's idea of typical and winning it all and shutting all these cry babies up.

 

[gmonjimbo]

It's true give Cam the weapons that the Falcons had last year with Kyle Shanahan and they would have lost at most 1 game. 

[GoobyPls]

Where's Luck?

[Hoenheim]

18 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

It's true give Cam the weapons that the Falcons had last year with Kyle Shanahan and they would have lost at most 1 game. 

Cam lost only one game in 2015 reg season with Ted Ginn, Philly brown , and Rookie Devin Funchess with Mike Shula as his coach and Mike Remmers as his RT

[Hoenheim]

You give cam an elite OC and elite WR we probably go 19-0  in 201&

 

 

[countryboi]

6 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Where's Luck?

Tier 3: Rising stars

2016: Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, Andrew Luck, Derek Carr
2017: Mariota, Winston, Luck, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, Jimmy Garoppolo

Luck’s serious injury turn the last two seasons has to give you pause. He’s going to miss this entire offseason and who knows how much of the preseason recovering from shoulder surgery and his ascent has stalled some the past two years. Mariota and Winston could end up in Tier 1 before all is said and done. I also refuse to believe that the Pats squat on Garoppolo for multiple years and I would love to see what he can do starting every Sunday. Prescott’s 2016 season was historic and took the league by storm after Romo got hurt again in the preseason. We’ll see if there is any sophomore slump with expectations now sky high. Wentz is also on the right trajectory in Philly.