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Some notes from my source

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grimesgoat Experienced

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9 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Based on history I would say I'd like MORE second round picks- you can't always miss. Regression to the mean states were due for some big time hits. 

Also we've gotten KK and Bradberry under Gettleman in the second 

Modern NFL is moving away from the power run game. I don't mind Fournette at 8 but trading up to get him is asinine. 

I agree about not trading up for Fournette. 

But the fact the NFL is moving away from the power run game has its advantages too.  If defenses try to stop the power run with a bunch of little corners/safeties, we are at a huge advantage.  If done right, the power run teams control the ball, the clock, and their destiny.

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20 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Based on history I would say I'd like MORE second round picks- you can't always miss. Regression to the mean states were due for some big time hits. 

Also we've gotten KK and Bradberry under Gettleman in the second 

Modern NFL is moving away from the power run game. I don't mind Fournette at 8 but trading up to get him is asinine. 

The "moving away from the power running game" is almost more of a reason to embrace than discard it since it will exploit weaknesses on most other teams, but agree completely about trading up at a steep price for an RB. I hope that doesn't happen.

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8 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I agree about not trading up for Fournette. 

But the fact the NFL is moving away from the power run game has its advantages too.  If defenses try to stop the power run with a bunch of little corners/safeties, we are at a huge advantage.  If done right, the power run teams control the ball, the clock, and their destiny.

That's fair but that entirely hinges on you not falling behind in games. 

It's a great strategy but that was our problem in the Superbowl. The Broncos figured out our strategy, throw in some bad luck (stew hurt, terrible cotch call, remmers falling apart) and we couldn't adjust 

I like Fournette at 8, don't think he's a bad pick, trading up for him though is bad. 

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1 minute ago, SOJA said:

That's fair but that entirely hinges on you not falling behind in games. 

It's a great strategy but that was our problem in the Superbowl. The Broncos figured out our strategy, throw in some bad luck (stew hurt, terrible cotch call, remmers falling apart) and we couldn't adjust 

I like Fournette at 8, don't think he's a bad pick, trading up for him though is bad. 

That's the beauty of having a quarterback that can rally if necessary and make things happen.  Cam has all the tools as well as the makeup.  He's been learning on the job, and has had some success.  With more experience, he will be the master of the 4th quarter, whether it be running out the clock or putting together a winning drive.

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Who would be the most aggressive defender available? I think that's who we take.

we know this about Wilks from a player interview recently: things are about to get much more aggressive on defense. What does that mean: pass rush. DB blitzes. People who can terrorize the line. Which DB would be the best blitzer and pass defender? If there is a blue goose pass rusher that might be the pick if the DB isn't aggressive enough.

i think the theme on offense is going to be similar. I think we like fournette so much because he hits people and runs them over. He's a classic impose your will player. I'd like to see us grab another WR, like Godwin in round 2.

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

Based on history I would say I'd like MORE second round picks- you can't always miss. Regression to the mean states were due for some big time hits. 

Also we've gotten KK and Bradberry under Gettleman in the second 

Modern NFL is moving away from the power run game. I don't mind Fournette at 8 but trading up to get him is asinine. 

Modern NFL moved away from the Power Run game! That's why it's the perfect time to have a dominant Power Run game

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1 minute ago, SOJA said:

But that's not a good reason to trade up for him

Depends if Gman thinks he will become a Hall of Fame RB. Personally, I would have no problem trading all our picks this year for Hall of Fame talent. And I'm not saying that Hall of Fame Caliber can't be found in Rds outside of the first, but it gets soooo much harder to find!

I'm part of that group that thinks Fournette is going to be special! A real game changer! To do what he did in the SEC on a team that had no passing game at all is remarkable. Will he be Hall of Fame level? I don't know! In my opinion he has the most glaring signs over his head favoring that possibility. His talent is undeniable and apparently some GMs see the same. Our current roster is pretty talented at the moment and I would much rather walk away from this draft with a true and real game changer on offense rather than 6-7 guys that out of those,  3-4 will be serviceable to solid at best.

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2 hours ago, Gin and Juice said:

Not saying in the least that you don't have a viable source, however, why would anyone on the staff leak their draft plans? 

Not so much their draft pick, he already told me not to leak that, but what his department sees other teams doing, sure. Like he said a couple days ago, scouts/gms are just as susceptible to smokescreens as us. We talked yesterday and we were talking about how this is easily the murkiest draft in a long time, smoke everywhere, and no real feel at what people are doing. Believe it or not, they pay attention to online mock drafts to get an idea of where people are going, and they talk with people inside the other team buildings, plus getting ideas from talking with fellow scouts at combine/pro days/etc. It's not like they all sit in absolute silence about their grades and ideas lol

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