The Film Room Ep. 29: Jabrill Peppers Scouting Report

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

Peppers won't go that late.

The tools are there. Any coach that knows defense will pick him up in the second round. 

I wouldn't be opposed to taking him in the 2nd, I just want no part of him in the top half of the 1st.

[Saca312]

I sense a trend with this guy's videos.

He's acting like he's selling a revolutionary product with each video rather than an analysis on the strengths and weaknesses of each person. He's creating hype over things that shouldn't be hyped, and excuses for things that shouldn't be excused with each person.

I don't hold a lot of water with this guy's analysis.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, guffeyp said:

Mathieu went in the third due to character concerns. Otherwise, he would have been a first round pick.

Character concerns were the #1 reason, but his lack of size and lack of elite timed athleticism were big factors too.

I think a lot of NFL people had serious doubts that he could do in the NFL what he did at LSU at only 5'9" 185. Then he just tested above average in most of the drills. He wasn't elite anywhere. Only put up 4 reps of 225 highlighting the lack of size/strength even more.

But, it didn't matter. He's proven he could make the transition.

[yasuhara2241]

I actually like Peppers, not with the 8th pick though. I see him going somewhere in mid-late first. I would love his versatility at the safety position and his playmaking ability on defense and special teams. 

Now I wouldn't trade up to get him, but for some odd reason if he drops to the 2nd round which I don't think at all I wouldn't mind finding a way to get him with our 1st 2nd round pick. 

[Snake]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Please no positionless players at #8. Right now, Peppers is an athlete first and a football player 2nd. He's going to have to learn a TON at the NFL level. Instant impact special teamer but the jury is out on him finding a full time role on a defense. He may never be anything more than a situational player.

Yea he is a second day pick. I would say mid second to early 3rd round. 

[Moorgan]

Jabril Peppers will be live in studio on NFL Network tonight at 6. Just throwing that out there.

[emhoward]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

I sense a trend with this guy's videos.

He's acting like he's selling a revolutionary product with each video rather than an analysis on the strengths and weaknesses of each person. He's creating hype over things that shouldn't be hyped, and excuses for things that shouldn't be excused with each person.

I don't hold a lot of water with this guy's analysis.

 

I think its more that he's only reviewing prospects in that he likes.

Plus he wasn't exactly head over heels with Cam Robinson (bad fundamentals), Garret Conley (bad hand usage) or that LSU corner he reviewed (to small, not much speed.)

[emhoward]

I like Peppers more than most, just not quite enough to take at 8. I wish he'd created more turnovers then I'd feel more comfortable taking him that high.

[thefuzz]

I'm guessing last 1/3 of the 1st for him, top 10 would be a waste IMO.

[LinvilleGorge]

Yep, bottom of the 1st to top of the 2nd seems about right. Someone in that range will roll the dice on his potential.

[Moorgan]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep, bottom of the 1st to top of the 2nd seems about right. Someone in that range will roll the dice on his potential.

Would you hate it if we took Fournette and then moved back into the tail of the first to get him?

Because I could see him playing ST this year and backing up both SS and Nickel. And then replacing Adams once he gets his AARP membership.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Moorgan said:

Would you hate it if we took Fournette and then moved back into the tail of the first to get him?

Honestly, yeah I would. I just don't want to give up assets to move up to take a prospect who in my mind has a lot of question marks in terms of translating to the NFL. BUT, if we were to do that, I'd rather we do it with a defensive prospect. I simply have more confidence in our defensive coaching staff finding a way to use a guy than I do our offensive coaching staff.

For the record, I hated that trade up for Funchess. When we jumped up, I was hoping it was for Jaelen Strong. I'm slightly comforted by the fact that he's been a bust too up to this point.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Biggest question mark is can he create turnovers? 1int in his college career. A player like that you don't take in the 1st unless you're are sure he can fix those problems.


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[Cpt slay a ho]

Honestly, yeah I would. I just don't want to give up assets to move up to take a prospect who in my mind has a lot of question marks in terms of translating to the NFL. BUT, if we were to do that, I'd rather we do it with a defensive prospect. I simply have more confidence in our defensive coaching staff finding a way to use a guy than I do our offensive coaching staff.
For the record, I hated that trade up for Funchess. When we jumped up, I was hoping it was for Jaelen Strong. I'm slightly comforted by the fact that he's been a bust too up to this point.

Houstons qb situation has been trash can though.....


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