VIDEO: Every Run By Fournette From The Shotgun

[PantherProfessor]

No doubt he has the physical tools to excel in the NFL in the right system. However, my concern is that his size and power advantage he relied on in college is minimized by the typical size and speed of an NFL caliper player. 

He will be hitting safeties the size of some college linebackers. 

I do think he may have been under utilized in the passing game and may have more potential than people expect. But, that would require an offense that would be willing to expand his role and develop it. Shula is not that guy. 

[Toomers]

12 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

You contradicted yourself by quoting me the first time.  So, you're looking pretty stupid for stating that.  

    Well. I didn't pay attention to who posted the attack on Saca at first. So I will readily admit that mistake. But as usual, you don't address the actual issue and deflect to another. Won't make the same mistake again. Please feel free to get the last word or whatever. I threw up in my mouth a little even typing something related to you.

[nctarheel0619]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

    Well. I didn't pay attention to who posted the attack on Saca at first. So I will readily admit that mistake. But as usual, you don't address the actual issue and deflect to another. Won't make the same mistake again. Please feel free to get the last word or whatever. I threw up in my mouth a little even typing something related to you.

Dude, I couldn't give a s hit what you did.  I couldn't care less if you choked on your own vomit.  

And I'm sure it was a "mistake."  Don't you worry honey tits.  I know you love me.  

[stirs]

Shotgun, to me is not the issue

It looked like a college football game tape where the well coached teams tackled him low and he got stuffed.  The lesser teams were trying to tackle him from the waist up and failed.

He will be a nightmare if he can get into the secondary, but on our team, with our offense, I see him getting +2, -1, +1, etc with the occasional burst into the secondary.

Would not trade up for him for sure

[steven8989]

I mean, do you think a CB wants to tackle that mother f ucker?  Fournette will be a better player than McCaffrey.  Bank on it.  

I wouldn't say he is going to be better than McCaffrey. If we would use him like say the patriots or other teams that have awesome offensive coordinators no doubt he would be better than Fournette. He can do so much more, all u get with Fournette if healthy is a bruiser. If not healthy we just have another Stewart. McCaffrey can play RB,slot wr, kick and punt return that's something we haven't had in a decade or more. I still miss Bates and he might have been the only one we ever had that was great at returns. So McCaffrey has more positive if u use him right but u can't say Fournette will be better!!

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[nctarheel0619]

Just now, steven8989 said:

I wouldn't say he is going to be better than McCaffrey. If we would use him like say the patriots or other teams that have awesome offensive coordinators no doubt he would be better than Fournette. He can do so much more, all u get with Fournette if healthy is a bruiser. If not healthy we just have another Stewart. McCaffrey can play RB,slot wr, kick and punt return that's something we haven't had in a decade or more. I still miss Bates and he might have been the only one we ever had that was great at returns. So McCaffrey has more positive if u use him right but u can't say Fournette will be better!!

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I think he'll be better, just a better fit in our system.  Plus, did you just see the statement I bolded?  

We don't have an awesome OC.  Hence the reason Fournette is the better back for us as long as Shula is here.  

[d-dave]

I can absolutely see and understand the perspectives that Fournette is a one trick pony - hit dudes until they run away.  The video out the shotgun didn't show running out of the spread to be a big problem for him.  I saw in that video he has a bit of a Cam Newton issue:  everyone wants to celebrate making the play.  I saw some of the Alabama dudes who got trucked also celebrating their big hits.  

I think if we draft Fournette, he becomes the focal piece of our offense.  The game plan changes to how effectively we run the ball with him to open up the passing game.  We'd still need Fozzy (or an upgrade) on more of the passing downs.  His success would really open up the Play Action game.  Now is that a reality for the Panthers right now?  I don't know.

Is it easier to find a guy who can be a physical, punishing running back in the NFL?  Or is it easier to find a swiss army knife guy like McCaffrey?  I love both backs, and I'd be thrilled if we got either.  If we traded up to get both...well...I might need to buy some more pants...

[Panthers8969]

13 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Fournette is a pretty darn good runningback, but there has been criticism lately concerning his ability from the shotgun. The Panthers offense has all too often used the shotgun as our primary offensive stance, and it shows with just 9.2% of Cam Newton's snaps being from center. Our offense has utilized the shotgun in our scheme, and any runningback we're planning to add must have some form of ability from such a position.

Leonard Fournette has been touted to be one of the worst from the position, but is he truly that bad?

Well, that's for you to decide.

A video compilation of every run by Fournette from the shotgun. 

From this, draw your own conclusions, and discuss.

Haha you've been doing a lot of thinking about this, I'll definitely have to watch this later when i have time 

[Panthers8969]

50 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Dude, I couldn't give a s hit what you did.  I couldn't care less if you choked on your own vomit.  

And I'm sure it was a "mistake."  Don't you worry honey tits.  I know you love me.  

1st-well thats not very nice

2nd-lol

[Panthers8969]

13 hours ago, panthers34 said:

To me it looks like he struggles more on zone blocking plays than anything else. He looks much more comfortable on man blocking plays and when he has lead blockers and pulling linemen. 

Thats what that one Youtube guy said about him, forget his name but the vid was posted here. 

so interesting you're saying the same. Do we run a lot of zone blocking plays?

[Panthers8969]

11 hours ago, Reebis21 said:

Just goes to show u how these so call draft experts hear one person dog Fournette for being bad in the Shotgun, so they decide to copy that person's opinion without researching themselves...can be said about anything really...but especially during draft season...never fails

haha yup

I remember first reading up on LF's scouting reports and people were saying he had bad hands/was a bad receiver. Then actually watching him and seeing he had good hands and was fine catching the ball in the backfield. Not sure where that idea stemmed from.

 

 

Edit: Sorry for posting so many times in a row. LF one of my favorite players in this draft and I'm very interested in him 

[Hoenheim]

I watched that whole video. He had some pretty decent shotgun runs in there along with some not so great ones. But most of the bad runs there were alot of defenders in his face before he could cross the line. What I did notice is that when he has one good block in front of him and he sees the hole , gets a head of steam, he's a damn force to be reckoned with.

I'd still love the pick at 8 if the Jags and Jets pass him up. It's looking highly unlikely though at this point. poo I wouldn't even care if the organization decided to trade up for him. I know Julio Jones is a WR but look at what the Falcons had to give up to get him. Not saying trade ups always work out but if you see a player you think is going to have a huge affect on your organization for the good then go get him.

 

[panthers34]

1 hour ago, Panthers8969 said:

Thats what that one Youtube guy said about him, forget his name but the vid was posted here. 

so interesting you're saying the same. Do we run a lot of zone blocking plays?

In man blocking there isn't much thinking that the RB has to do, so Fournette already knows exactly where he's running and he is usually following a FB or pulling guard, but in zone blocking the RB doesnt have a designated hole to go to and you have to do much more block reading and thinking as the RB. That's at least the simple way I learned in high school and teach as a high school coach so I'm no expert. 

That being said it looks to me like we do a combination of both, but a lot of the shutgun runs we do are zone reads where you leave the backside end unblocked. I think we are trying to get away from that though to protect Cam and Fournette seems like the perfect guy to help change our offense. 

[CPF4LIFE]

Why do people act like he is a finished product and won't get the opportunity to improve when he gets in the league?? LF can become a even better player, most things he does wrong are correctable.