Report: Panthers 100% Sold On Fournette - Will Be Pick If Available

[Cpt slay a ho]

Don't mind if he's the pick but the next questions becomes, what do we do to stop teams from stacking the box? Hopefully that's address in the second round of the draft and grabbing a fb in the later rounds


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[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, uscgamecocks said:

Zeke was a better RB prospect than Fournette and would be drafted ahead of him 10 times out of 10.

I think drafting Fournette at #8 will be a mistake, but I can live with it - he's a good player and there are clear benefits to having him on the team.  But if they trade up - even one spot - to draft a scheme-limited running back who has a lingering foot injury then Gettleman should be fired on the spot.

Trivia question:  Who was the last star running back to carry his team to a super bowl victory?

I'll hang up and wait for a response.

Could be wrong, but first name that comes to mind is Terrell Davis.

[t96]

48 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

 

No we're not. We discussing where Elliott should be drafted. We have the privilege of information. My original question was where would you draft Elliot in this year's draft, implied was you know he's a stud, as someone was claiming this was a "deep draft". Being a deep draft I wanted to know where Ezekiel Elliott should be valued. This is 100% a flawed exercise. My original intent was to emphasis that while this is a deep draft, studs are studs. And you take studs early. No matter the position.


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Well then 'we're' not doing anything, because that's how I was looking at it. If you're trying to compare an NFL player to players who've never taken an NFL practice snap then that is completely ridiculous and stupid, which is what you were doing as you now claim. And that's fine, that's just not how I was looking at it because that would be a waste of time. If you want to do it that way then Elliott would go #1 overall because he'd be the only player in the entire draft who you know 100% can perform in the NFL. Every other player you can't know for sure. Dumb exercise. Comparing Elliott as a prospect to these kids as prospects is much more worthwhile.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Could be wrong, but first name that comes to mind is Terrell Davis.

Well Lynch carried Seattle's offense to a SB win though of course their defense was just as important. 

[burnettwilliam23]

That sucks because the Jags are expected to pick him up

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[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Well Lynch carried Seattle's offense to a SB win though of course their defense was just as important. 

Thought of him, but my take on that game is that the defense carried them way more than Lynch did.

[Proudiddy]

I always trust Jeremy's reports, but I find this suspicious.  Showing our hand awfully early.

[panther4life]

1 hour ago, uscgamecocks said:

Trivia question:  Who was the last star running back to carry his team to a super bowl victory?

I'll hang up and wait for a response.

How many positions outside of QB have done so? We don't need a QB so your logic is flawed there. 

Here's players that won super bowl MVP and Season MVP in the same year that didn't play QB.

Lawrence Taylor

Emmit Smith

Terrell Davis.

[uscgamecocks]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Could be wrong, but first name that comes to mind is Terrell Davis.

I'd agree with Davis being the most recent.

I'd argue the NFL has fundamentally changed since then.  It's a QB and passing league now.  

If we draft Fournette let's hope we can turn back the clock.  Had the cowboys won last year we probably would have given Zeke most of the credit.

 

 

[uscgamecocks]

50 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Lynch was undoubtedly the foundation of that offense, but I'd argue the defense carried that team throughout the season and certainly in the SB.

[t96]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Thought of him, but my take on that game is that the defense carried them way more than Lynch did.

Well in the Super Bowl, yes. But, leading up to it to get them there?

[uscgamecocks]

5 minutes ago, panther4life said:

How many positions outside of QB have done so? We don't need a QB so your logic is flawed there. 

Here's players that won super bowl MVP and Season MVP in the same year that didn't play QB.

Lawrence Taylor

Emmit Smith

Terrell Davis.

Where we probably disagree is that I don't think Founette helps Cam become a better player.  Takes some pressure and hits off Cam - absolutely - but I think he makes Cam do things he isn't great at more frequently.

This gets back to the fundamental issue I have with Fournette - he is absolutley an elite downhill runner, but he is extremely limited in his lateral agility which limits his effectiveness from shotgun sets.

Some on here think he just needs more experience with shotgun.  I think he is physically limited - stiff hips - which limits his short area lateral movement (jump cuts).

I also don't think Cam's game - to this point - suggests he would excel being under center 70% of the time, which is how a team is going to maximize Fournette.

I could be wrong on both counts. I hope I am, because I think Fournette is very likely to end up a Panther.

[t96]

1 hour ago, uscgamecocks said:

Zeke was a better RB prospect than Fournette and would be drafted ahead of him 10 times out of 10.

I think drafting Fournette at #8 will be a mistake, but I can live with it - he's a good player and there are clear benefits to having him on the team.  But if they trade up - even one spot - to draft a scheme-limited running back who has a lingering foot injury then Gettleman should be fired on the spot.

Trivia question:  Who was the last star running back to carry his team to a super bowl victory?

I'll hang up and wait for a response.

Who was the last NFL player to carry his team to a super bowl victory?

 

Trick question, because the fact is there are more than 22 players with a significant impact on every single game. Never has any player, running back or otherwise, carried a team to a Super Bowl victory. Not even a QB. Closest may have been Rodgers but even then, the rest of the O was stacked and their D was no slouch. Stupid "trivia question" by you.

[uscgamecocks]

5 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Well in the Super Bowl, yes. But, leading up to it to get them there?

Honestly pretty hard to parse the two - running offense that excel in the postseason typically have excellent defenses.  I think Lynch is certainly arguable though Davis has the clearer case in my opinion.

Either way - it's certainly not the norm (2 of the last 18 SBs, giving credit to Lynch).

But it's definitely not impossible.  Zeke would likely have done it had the Cowboys not flamed out in the SB (lol).

And had we had Fournette - or even Derrick Henry - on our '15 SB squad, I think we would have won that game as well.  Jonathan Stewart's injury really hurt our chances in that game, I think.