Is The NFC South The Best And Toughest Division In The NFL Today?

[Johnny Rockets]

How does a team that finished last in their division at 6-10 have no holes anywhere? Free agency was a good start and a building block but not a cure all.


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[Saca312]

Just now, Johnny Rockets said:

How does a team that finished last in their division at 6-10 have no holes anywhere? Free agency was a good start and a building block but not a cure all.


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Please, tell me our holes. I'll have you know 6/10 of our losses were by 3 points or less, and 6/10 saw a lead in the 4th quarter.

[Johnny Rockets]

Please, tell me our holes. I'll have you know 6/10 of our losses were by 3 points or less, and 6/10 saw a lead in the 4th quarter.

Hole #1 - Killer instinct / Coaching to finish off games. Munnerlyn is a good start. Cam getting back in shape and rejuvenated is another positive.

With no holes, why is a team 6-10? What in free agency fixed it all? The outlook seems positive, but no holes? Why were those games lost?


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[Saca312]

Just now, Johnny Rockets said:

 

Hole #1 - Killer instinct / Coaching to finish off games. Munnerlyn is a good start. Cam getting back in shape and rejuvenated is another positive.

With no holes, why is a team 6-10? What in free agency fixed it all? The outlook seems positive, but no holes? Why were those games lost?


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Lmao. Because you had no answer, you took the easy way out and blame it on coaching. 

Now that I agree with, but that's not what I'm talking about when it comes to holes, and you know that too.

So, let me ask you the question again, tell me where we have a positional hole? As in on the team hole where we do not have a starter-caliber player? 

Don't get cheeky and say "2nd TE" and be like "because he isn't an all pro." Dickson is servicable, and would be a 2nd TE starter on other teams as well. Doesn't mean we could upgrade there, but we can go to war with him as starter.

Don't also be smart and say "FB." Tolbert made our offense worse, so cutting him made our offense better. We could get a FB, but our offense wouldn't die if we don't get one.

So, let me ask you again, where's our holes?

[Johnny Rockets]

Lmao. Because you had no answer, you took the easy way out and blame it on coaching. 
Now that I agree with, but that's not what I'm talking about when it comes to holes, and you know that too.
So, let me ask you the question again, tell me where we have a positional hole? As in on the team hole where we do not have a starter-caliber player? 
Don't get cheeky and say "2nd TE" and be like "because he isn't an all pro." Dickson is servicable, and would be a 2nd TE starter on other teams as well. Doesn't mean we could upgrade there, but we can go to war with him as starter.
Don't also be smart and say "FB." Tolbert made our offense worse, so cutting him made our offense better. We could get a FB, but our offense wouldn't die if we don't get one.
So, let me ask you again, where's our holes?

Don't get mad...I'm good with breaking it down but it's Saturday night, I'm in a good mood, and NCAA tourney is on so can I get back to you on this? ps...there aren't many holes but 6-10 is 6-10.



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[Salisburysean98]

28 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Lmao. Because you had no answer, you took the easy way out and blame it on coaching. 

Now that I agree with, but that's not what I'm talking about when it comes to holes, and you know that too.

So, let me ask you the question again, tell me where we have a positional hole? As in on the team hole where we do not have a starter-caliber player? 

Don't get cheeky and say "2nd TE" and be like "because he isn't an all pro." Dickson is servicable, and would be a 2nd TE starter on other teams as well. Doesn't mean we could upgrade there, but we can go to war with him as starter.

Don't also be smart and say "FB." Tolbert made our offense worse, so cutting him made our offense better. We could get a FB, but our offense wouldn't die if we don't get one.

So, let me ask you again, where's our holes?

I will answer this, Right Tackle/mediocre at best O line Depth/Extremely bad LB Depth besides Jeremy Cash(Depends on if he takes the next step if he does it could be Mediocre)/ Cornerback(We are one Bradbury injury away from seeing the 5'8 Captain M guarding against some damn good TALL receivers, I think Worley needs to show a lot of promise this season.) Running Back, ( One Jonathan Stewart injury away from mediocrity, and we all know it's not a matter of IF he gets hurt either.. He WILL) and I'm going to say Wide Receiver. I don't buy into what we got until I see results on the field IMHO. Also who is going to be our Fullback? Do you think we could just bring in any "yo ho" or rookie/1-3 year player and get it done ? Can he run block? Will he be able to protect Cam in the Passing game if he's asked to against some of the most fiercest pass rushers we'll see since last season? Fullback is a legit argument.  

 

While Daryl Williams has shown promise and I like him a lot, my prediction is Matt Kalil will be absolutely solid but you don't win all the time. As a 100 percent whole our O line has got a long ways to go when you're talking about blocking Pernell Mcphee/ Datone Jones/ Everson Griffin/ Ezekiel Ansah and guys like that. This season revolves around a bunch of IFS and BUTS, but I think it'll be a good year because following a bad season we've always been great historically. Oh and another Tight End across from Olsen because Dickson is hot garbage. He's NOT a 2nd Tight End on any team lmao!!!! He is absolutely horrible. What can he do??? What did he do???  I'd like to see a veteran who can block at least. Maybe the Vet can get open on a short hitch and make catches like Heath Miller used to do for the Steelers while Greg handles the big poo. Greg is older, his body will start breaking down very soon. It's hard to say but I say the truth.

 

You could probably say something like (Your arguments are if this player gets hurt and that player gets hurt) Yes I did say that, but the Depth at O line is bad enough to make you wonder what is going to happen if players miss an extended period of time. Especially at Tackle, and Jonathan Stewart is always a legit conversation about what we're going to do if he gets hurt. You know that with being a Panthers fan, now AJ Klein walking servers as a real question mark at MLB Depth too. And as a whole because he could play each LB position and be the true definition of serviceable.

[Saca312]

Not going to quote you, rather tag. @Salisburysean98

Our LB depth is pretty solid. David Mayo, remember him? The guy who did better than Klein when given the chance?

Ben Jacobs ain't half bad either if you ever seen him honestly. There's a reason we've been the deepest LB group in the league.

FB can be a concern, but we never had a FB last season (Tolbert doesn't count; can't block poo) so I'm going with not a need, but we'll probably get.

WR I get, but we could go to war with our current group. KB will rebound, and Shepard could honestly play slot if needed. We'll likely draft a slot WR anyways, so no worries there.

2nd TE Dickson is okay and decent for what he is, but we'll still likely upgrade in the draft anyways.

RT is more than fine. Daryl Williams is better than Remmers, and shut down Vic Beasley and other legit pass rushers before. Even so, Oher could rebound and make that spot his.

The rest you called out is depth. Yes, we'll get a RB to compliment Stew. Yes, corner depth is a concern.

That should be taken care of soon.

[Lasus83.]

NFC east is always a bloodbath.

If you are a team in the pats division, though, it has been an awfully tough couple decades.

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[Lasus83.]

Not going to quote you, rather tag. [mention=17232]Salisburysean98[/mention]
Our LB depth is pretty solid. David Mayo, remember him? The guy who did better than Klein when given the chance?
Ben Jacobs ain't half bad either if you ever seen him honestly. There's a reason we've been the deepest LB group in the league.
FB can be a concern, but we never had a FB last season (Tolbert doesn't count; can't block poo) so I'm going with not a need, but we'll probably get.
WR I get, but we could go to war with our current group. KB will rebound, and Shepard could honestly play slot if needed. We'll likely draft a slot WR anyways, so no worries there.
2nd TE Dickson is okay and decent for what he is, but we'll still likely upgrade in the draft anyways.
RT is more than fine. Daryl Williams is better than Remmers, and shut down Vic Beasley and other legit pass rushers before. Even so, Oher could rebound and make that spot his.
The rest you called out is depth. Yes, we'll get a RB to compliment Stew. Yes, corner depth is a concern.
That should be taken care of soon.

Whoa guys.. it is an odd numbered year... we're going deep in the playoffs...

Let's all just smile at that.

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