Carolina Panthers work out East Carolina's Zay Jones and working out Ross

[WOW!!]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

LaFell plateaud after his 2nd season. 468 - 613 - 677 - 627 were his yardage totals as a Panther.

Smitty broke out in his 2nd season with 872 yards after getting minimal run as a WR as a rookie. He exploded in his 3rd with 1110 yards, but everyone had already gotten a glimpse of what he could do. Plus, he was a 3rd round pick who was probably never expected to be a starting WR. We probably drafted him to be a returner/slot WR.

Moose... yay! 1 out of 3 ain't bad! At least that's what Funchess would say! That's about the percentage of balls that come his way that he catches.

I said 2 to 3 years for most WR.. Where was i wrong again??

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

You tend to read typed words unglued..

Since you're reading words and I'm not saying it to you personally .. I can't really portray emotion thru a post.. Especially with no punctuation.. You put the feelings behind my words by the way they made your cupcake self feel..

That's just common sense..

When you start acting exasperated and stop trying to argue your point and begin to build strawmen, well... one is to assume that you're becoming emotional.

By the way, that's what you're doing here. If you don't want to be accused of being emotional, stop acting the part.

Here, let me help you out and try to get you back on track...

Exactly why should we expect Funchess to take a big step forward? What has he shown in his opportunities?

Age and age alone isn't an argument for expecting marked improvement.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I said 2 to 3 years for most WR.. Where was i wrong again??

 

Yes, most players tend to improve after their rookie season.

Funchess didn't.

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When you start acting exasperated and stop trying to argue your point and begin to build strawmen, well... one is to assume that you're becoming emotional.

By the way, that's what you're doing here. If you don't want to be accused of being emotional, stop acting the part.

Here, let me help you out and try to get you back on track...

Exactly why should we expect Funchess to take a big step forward? What has he shown in his opportunities?

Age and age alone isn't an argument for expecting marked improvement.

I'm not reading all this.. I tuned out when you became a X-Men and started getting emotion from typed words..

You know that movie trick where they have a character read a written letter to them  from another character and do the bubble montage of how they think that person was if they were reading the letter??

 

 

Yay that's not real..

[LinvilleGorge]

All of that? A decently educated person could read that in 20 seconds.

Are you going to attempt to argue your point or are we done here?

[WOW!!]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yes, most players tend to improve after their rookie season.

Funchess didn't.

So sohpmore slump doesn't happen regularly..

It's a term i just made up here.. Instead of something that happens so regularly that it is almost expected..

Better Year Cam's rookie year or 2nd year??

Better year Matt Ryans rookie year or 2nd year??

How about we make a list and see which one is longer..

Sohpmore slump players or players who had a better 2nd year than their 1st

Rg3.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, WOW!! said:

So sohpmore slump doesn't happen regularly..

It's a term i just made up here.. Instead of something that happens so regularly that it is almost expected..

Better Year Cam's rookie year or 2nd year??

Better year Matt Ryans rookie year or 2nd year??

How about we make a list and see which one is longer..

Sohpmore slump players or players who had a better 2nd year than their 1st

Rg3.

Now we're comparing QBs to WRs?

Funchess didn't really slump, he just didn't get a bit better. 

[WOW!!]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

All of that? A decently educated person could read that in 20 seconds.

Are you going to attempt to argue your point or are we done here?

Are you going to quit acting like you spent 3 semesters at Hogsworth??

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[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Now we're comparing QBs to WRs?

Funchess didn't really slump, he just didn't get a bit better. 

No what you don't realize is the whole offense slumped due to injuries.. So it's kinda hard to blame the youngest most inexperinece member for not getting better..

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Are you going to quit acting like you spent 3 semesters at Hogsworth??

1st

I think the word you were looking for there was "Hogwarts".

I have produced ample arguments for why I think the Panthers should not be counting on Funchess to dramatically improve. Citing Fuchess' opportunities in terms of snaps, targets, and percentages of snaps targeted. Particularly when compared to Philly Brown who Funchess was closest to in snap count last season.

Other than age and presumably the tendency of young QBs to have a sophomore slump, why should Panthers fans be expecting a big jump forward for Funchess? What have you seen from him to make you think this is likely?

[WOW!!]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I think the word you were looking for there was "Hogwarts".

I have produced ample arguments for why I think the Panthers should not be counting on Funchess to dramatically improve. Citing Fuchess' opportunities in terms of snaps, targets, and percentages of snaps targeted. Particularly when compared to Philly Brown who Funchess was closest to in snap count last season.

Other than age and presumably the tendency of young QBs to have a sophomore slump, why should Panthers fans be expecting a big jump forward for Funchess? What have you seen from him to make you think this is likely?

I just said ..

1. Usely take 2 to 3 years for WR to get the game.. not to mention we're talking about a player making a position change not just a level up in competition..

2. The whole offense suckef last year so expecting him developed in that situation is a little harsh..

3. I  think the whole offense will imporve based on a healthy oline with more depth alone..

4. Already hearing reports on how he is killing it and putting in more work this offseason..

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

No what you don't realize is the whole offense slumped due to injuries.. So it's kinda hard to blame the youngest most inexperinece member for not getting better..

I don't blame him for the offense as a whole, but I certainly do put a healthy amount of blame on him for catching less than 40% of the passes thrown his way.

Ginn and Olsen largely did what they do. Hell, Ginn actually had his highest catch percentage, catches, and yardage of all of his three seasons as a Panther. Olsen had 3 more catches but 34 less yards; his catch percentage was virtually identical (62.0% vs. 62.1%). It was Funchess and Philly who fell off a cliff. That's probably why we let Philly walk and it's why I think Funchess should be in "prove it" mode.

That's all I'm saying here. I'm not saying cut the guy right now. I'm simply saying that his free ride should be over. If other guys out-perform him, don't hang onto him simply because he's young and we spent a 2nd round pick on him. That 2nd round pick is a sunk cost. We're not getting that back. It's time for Funchess to be judged based on his performance and not on his potential.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I just said ..

1. Usely take 2 to 3 years for WR to get the game.. not to mention we're talking about a player making a position change not just a level up in competition..

2. The whole offense suckef last year so expecting him developed in that situation is a little harsh..

3. I  think the whole offense will imporve based on a healthy oline with more depth alone..

4. Already hearing reports on how he is killing it and putting in more work this offseason..

1. I agree that most players improve after their rookie season. Though his yardage was pretty similar, his catch percentage plummeted last year while Benjamin and Ginn saw an improvement in this metric and Olsen's was virtually identical. It wasn't just Cam being inaccurate.

2. See above.

3. Agreed.

4. That sounds just like last year. Everyone was raving about his offseason work last year.

Again, I'm not saying to not give the guy a chance. I really hope he wakes up and delivers on his potential, but we shouldn't be counting on that. Really hoping to see another WR drafted early. 

[csx]

All I know is local media raving is the kiss of death and the opposite holds true as well.