Joe Mixon's Rehab Effort Is Working

[top dawg]

37 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

 

But, but, I was told by the Huddle's moral police he wouldn't get Drafted.  

@15

Has anyone said that he wouldn't drafted altogether, or just that the Panthers wouldn't draft him? 

[nctarheel0619]

2 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

Nice bait. Not taking it. My previous post addressed this drivel. 

Bait?  My mother, or aunt would never put their hands on another person.  You're asking for trouble when you do that.  

Your previous post was trash by the way.  She's been arrested 3 times, while Mixon has been an upstanding citizen.  

[nctarheel0619]

Just now, top dawg said:

Has anyone said that he wouldn't drafted altogether, or just that the Panthers wouldn't draft him? 

There have been people on here stating he won't get drafted.  Especially after the video came out.  

[swoonychic13]

Just now, Proudiddy said:

And sadly, despite being the one who was physically assaulted first, his contrition still won't put him on our board.  But, we're not alone.  McShay said this morning that he thinks only 6 or 7 teams are legitimately even considering drafting him, ANYWHERE.

THIS. Its so easy to characterize him as an abuser or talk about his "character flaws", but in reality Mixon is a guy who doesn't drink, tries to stay out of trouble, and works HARD. He was attacked by a racist, drug dealing POS, and defended himself, but because he is male he was the one arrested. He was the one who lost a year of his college career. And he is the one who has constantly defend himself for defending himself. Its disgusting.

Whichever team "gambles" on him is going to get a huge payoff. I hope its us, but I am not optimistic. After the Hardy debacle, I see JR distancing himself from any potential character issues, no matter how unfounded they truly are.

 

 

[nctarheel0619]

Just now, swoonychic13 said:

THIS. Its so easy to characterize him as an abuser or talk about his "character flaws", but in reality Mixon is a guy who doesn't drink, tries to stay out of trouble, and works HARD. He was attacked by a racist, drug dealing POS, and defended himself, but because he is male he was the one arrested. He was the one who lost a year of his college career. And he is the one who has constantly defend himself for defending himself. Its disgusting.

Whichever team "gambles" on him is going to get a huge payoff. I hope its us, but I am not optimistic. After the Hardy debacle, I see JR distancing himself from any potential character issues, no matter how unfounded they truly are.

 

 

@Vagrant

 

This is a female by the way.  Obviously an intelligent female as well.  

[cookinbrak]

26 minutes ago, swoonychic13 said:

THIS. Its so easy to characterize him as an abuser or talk about his "character flaws", but in reality Mixon is a guy who doesn't drink, tries to stay out of trouble, and works HARD. He was attacked by a racist, drug dealing POS, and defended himself, but because he is male he was the one arrested. He was the one who lost a year of his college career. And he is the one who has constantly defend himself for defending himself. Its disgusting.

Whichever team "gambles" on him is going to get a huge payoff. I hope its us, but I am not optimistic. After the Hardy debacle, I see JR distancing himself from any potential character issues, no matter how unfounded they truly are.

 

 

And if Mixon doesn't go in to harass the gay dude, there wouldn't be an issue.

[swoonychic13]

Women cannot cry for equality and then do things like that and hide behind their vaginas. Its crap. What the video doesn't show you is that this was not the first incident of Moliter and her friends harassing Mixon that night. It doesn't show you that she called him over to further harass him before calling him racial slurs, pushing him, slapping him, and spitting on him. He responded by punching her. She hit that table, which coincidentally did the majority of the damage to her face. But its all his fault because he is bigger? Did she not know that he was bigger? She could not see that he was stronger? Of course she could. But she chose to put her hands on him and deserves what she got. If she had been a man shoving, slapping, and spitting on him no one would care. But she's not, so eff all that equality talk, huh? 

Did you know that SHE was one that fought the video being released to the public? I wonder why she would do that if she was the victim? Maybe because then the public would see her for the racist POS she is?

If you put your hands on another person, regardless of whether they are bigger or smaller than you, you gotta accept the consequences. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 

[Proudiddy]

1 hour ago, Vagrant said:

Listen smart guy, "physically assaulted first" is probably one of the most hilariously dumb things. Have you ever heard of anything called proportional reaction to a threat? If a child comes up and shoves you in the leg, you can't legally punt the kid across the room. Why? Because your response was not proportional to the level of threat you encountered. Self defense only applies when you feel there is a real danger and the only option that remains is to act first so that you're not physically harmed. Do you believe Joe Mixon was under any form of threat in that video? Can you watch it and say "Yeah, he was in danger. That was a reasonable reaction." If not, it's not self defense. You're talking about a full grown freak athlete giving his best punch to a woman. There's no reason someone raised properly would do that. None. 

If this dude couldn't run fast, 80% of the Huddle would want him lynched. Instead, we're sitting here arguing on if he should have the honor to put the jersey on for this team and say he's a Panther. Seriously. If you posted this video without context in other parts of the forum and nobody had any idea who Joe Mixon was, people would be saying "thug shouldn't ever see freedom again" and "if that was my sister, I would have killed that boy." Now you want to cheer for him. Interesting choice. 

I'm not in the mood to get in a pissing contest, but I do sense some anger in your post towards me for what you percieve as me giving him a pass.  But, you touched on a lot of different aspects of why this discussion is relevant here, and while I agree with you on some points, I don't agree on all of them.

For one, yes, you make a valid point on proportional reaction to a threat.  And to be clear, I'm not justifying or excusing his actions.  He overreacted.  I have never hit a woman and I don't believe we as men ever have a valid reason to...  i feel like generally, there is always an opportunity to avoid it, even if the woman is the instigator.  That being said, to counter that point, you also brought up how one was raised...  You also mentioned his social standing as an athlete affects public perception of him.  But, in that same vein, it must be considered that due to their physical gifts, society has influenced their perception of the world around them as well.  For all of those points you brought up as to why we shouldn't want him, they can just as easily be flipped to explain how he could and would react in such a manner.  He is viewed as an alpha male, has been his whole life.  He identifies himself by his physical gifts because society uplifts him and gives him special treatment because of them.  Part of being alpha, or one of "the best" physical specimen is not allowing one's self to be "punked" or disrespected.  An elite athlete knows society measures their worth by their physical prowess and presence.

So, here you have a guy with all that at play, who is the big man on campus, who walks into a cafe on said campus, and was likely talking crap to the woman and/or her homosexual male friend in order to impress his fellow athlete friends.  It is disputed as to who started the verbal insults...  We don't know what was said, but someone said something that escalated the situation...  she claims Mixon called her friend a homosexual slur, Mixon claims her friend called him a racial slur.  Whatever the situation, she then escalated it by attacking him physically.  You brought up proportional reaction to a threat?  So, why was hers justified for initiating it?  He could have and should have walked off.  In fact, it appeared that he tried to...  she then pushed Mixon.  He jumped at her and reportedly told her to not touch him, giving her another opportunity to de-escalate the situation, and instead, she then slaps/punches him in the face.  This, all while his friends watch.  I think his ego got the best of him and for all of the reasons mentioned above, it was a split-second reaction to being disrespected in a way in which he wasnt prepared for or expecting.  In his interviews with police afterwards, he was immediately remorseful and worried.

And again, there is no excusing his actions, but if we want to be honest, you mentioned if someone was "raised right," then they wouldn't react that way.  Sometimes true, but not always.  I have daughters, and I raise them to act like women, to be respectful of others, to not tolerate disrespect, but to also think before they act and then act in a measured, dignified way.  I don't teach them to solve disputes with violence.  And if a man ever hit one of them, it would likely be the last woman they ever touched.  So, in Mixon's case, if SHE was raised right, she wouldnt have thought punching a "freak athlete" would bring anything good of the situation.  She would have thought keeping her hands to herself was the best course of action for self-preservation, because she would know, not everyone was raised like she was, if that was the case.

I'm not excusing his actions.  But, i'm not judging his character based off what is known about that situation and the context therein.  If he wouldve walked in there and mollywopped her on his own unprovoked volition, then he is an absolute piece of poo.  That's not what happened.

Also, we're talking about pro football.  The modern day gladiators...  do you think Romans cared if their gladiators were pieces of poo outside of the coliseum?  Nope.  The best "gladiators" aren't always the best human beings.  Name me the last Superbowl team that didnt have a player with a rap sheet on their roster...  all of the recent  ones I can think of have a history of questionable characters - the Pats are constantly mired in scandal and drafted a serial killer within the last decade.  The Broncos have Talib.  Enough said.  The Seahawks?  Even now beloved Marshawn Lynch had run-ins with the law and they've drafted REAL, AUTHENTIC pieces of poo like Frank Clark.  We go out of our way to avoid anything questionable to uphold this unrealistic standard that winning franchises know isn't attainable while maintaining WINNING.  Even the Steelers, who we claim to model ourselves after, constantly draft players and employ people with questionable character.

Again, if it was unprovoked, i would be 100% on board with the idea that he can go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200.  But, again, that is not what happened.

[Plewis]

1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

And sadly, despite being the one who was physically assaulted first, his contrition still won't put him on our board.  But, we're not alone.  McShay said this morning that he thinks only 6 or 7 teams are legitimately even considering drafting him, ANYWHERE.

 

To piggyback on what the last guy said... this is a dumb statement. Trust me, I'm a person who said Hardy should have gotten a fair shake after his ordeal as I know what it's like to have a crazy, mad drunk girl attacking you and your property. It's not fun and they can almost always have a great story that makes them look like the victim. 

However, in this scenario we have video. Mixon antagonized and instigated the incident. He went into that restaurant looking for trouble. When the young girl stood up for her friend that Mixon was calling a '***', he punched her in the face. Saying "sadly, despite being the one who was physically assaulted first" in this situation is pretty ignorant. Hopefully, your ignorance is simply about not understanding the video or case and not willful.

[Proudiddy]

2 minutes ago, Plewis said:

To piggyback on what the last guy said... this is a dumb statement. Trust me, I'm a person who said Hardy should have gotten a fair shake after his ordeal as I know what it's like to have a crazy, mad drunk girl attacking you and your property. It's not fun and they can almost always have a great story that makes them look like the victim. 

However, in this scenario we have video. Mixon antagonized and instigated the incident. He went into that restaurant looking for trouble. When the young girl stood up for her friend that Mixon was calling a '***', he punched her in the face. Saying "sadly, despite being the one who was physically assaulted first" in this situation is pretty ignorant. Hopefully, your ignorance is simply about not understanding the video or case and not willful.

I've watched the video.  If you go out in public, and another man calls you a name or insults your friend or family member with you, do you initiate a physical altercation.  If not, would you approve your female friend to do so for you?

Mixon tried to walk off two different times, regardless of what words were said.

[Plewis]

Just now, Proudiddy said:

I've watched the video.  If you go out in public, and another man calls you a name or insults your friend or family member with you, do you initiate a physical altercation.  If not, would you approve your female friend to do so for you?

Mixon tried to walk off two different times, regardless of what words were said.

 

He followed them into the restaurant and no one kept him from leaving. Are we watching the same video?

[tiger7_88]

During the Sugar Bowl, when Oklahoma was beating the holy crap out of my Auburn Tigers, he and his teammates doing pretend punch-outs on the sideline for funs and giggles sure didn't make it look like he had any regrets.

But NOW, a little over 2 months later, we're all of a sudden expected to buy into his sincerity... lol.

[Icege]

1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

And sadly, despite being the one who was physically assaulted first, his contrition still won't put him on our board.  But, we're not alone.  McShay said this morning that he thinks only 6 or 7 teams are legitimately even considering drafting him, ANYWHERE.

He followed a dude into a bar after taunting him (w/ teammates) using homophobic slurs, the person being harassed responded with an ethnic slur, Mixon got more aggressive, Molitor pushed him, he bucked at her threateningly, she slapped him, and then he broke several bones in his face.

Can we please quit this bullshit trivialization of what he did and acknowledge he was a scumbag? His justification was "It felt like a man hit me." FOH Joe. We all saw it. If that felt like a man hitting him, he'll shatter like RG3 when an NFL LB blasts him.

Seriously, I'm about to just start posting the video in every Joe Mixon thread until people start to at least be honest with themselves and admit that they're ok with beating the poo out of women so long as TDs are scored.

[Icege]