Post what you think the Panthers Draftroom Big Board looks like for the Top 10 Picks

[thunderraiden]

I'll go first:

1. Myles Garrett
2. Solomon Thomas
3. Jonathan Allen
4. Jamal Adams
5. Leonard Fournette
6. Marshon Lattimore
7. Derek Barnette
8. Malik Hooker
9. Rueben Foster
10. Mike Williams
11. O.J. Howard
12. Corey Davis

I did 12 just because possibility we trade down and get ammo for a move up to get two first rounders.

Edit: They probably have Adams at 4 now that I think about it.

[cam's yams]

 

1. Myles Garrett
2. Leonard Fournette
3. Jamaal Adams
4. Solomon Thomas
5. Malik Hooker
6. Jonathan Allen
7. O.J. Howard
8. Taco Charlton
9. Marshon Lattimore
10. John Ross

[Catufb85]

3 minutes ago, cam's yams said:

 

1. Myles Garrett
2. Leonard Fournette
3. Jamaal Adams
4. Solomon Thomas
5. Malik Hooker
6. Jonathan Allen
7. O.J. Howard
8. Taco Charlton
9. Marshon Lattimore
10. John Ross

Don't feel like typing all that out so I'll say this one 

[DaveThePanther2008]

What is the love affair with Barnette? 

From what I have heard he is a one dimension DE and terrible against the run.   Yet I see mock after lousy mock having us take him.

Am I misinformed?

[Nails]

I still think it only needs to go to 8 because IMHO the only way we trade back to 12 is if 4 of the 8 are on the board at 8, which guarantee we get one.  I've posted of trade down scenarios and they're sometimes interesting but realistically the odds of allowing New Orleans to pick in front of us by choice and allow them to take a pass rusher we covet are simply astronomical, for good reason.

GMan's top 8

1. Garrett

2. Barnett 

3. Fournette 

4. Thomas

5. Charlton

6. Allen

7. Adams

8. Howard

[thunderraiden]

I have Barnette as doomsday choice in this. he is the last DE I would even consider. I would love Malik but I don't think the team would value someone that can't tackle as much as we do. Even if he could lock down the field in pass pro.

[Nails]

Just now, DaveThePanther2008 said:

What is the love affair with Barnette? 

From what I have heard he is a one dimension DE and terrible against the run.   Yet I see mock after lousy mock having us take him.

Am I misinformed?

April can't get here soon enough.  Simply put many agree and many strongly disagree with that.  

 

[OldNorthPowell]

1. Jamal Adams
2. Leonard Fournette
3. O.J. Howard
4. Derek Barnette
5. John Ross
6. Dalvin Cook
7. Solomon Thomas
8. Mike Williams
9. Taco Charlton
10. Christian McCaffrey

[DaveThePanther2008]

6 minutes ago, cam's yams said:

 

1. Myles Garrett
2. Leonard Fournette
3. Jamaal Adams
4. Solomon Thomas
5. Malik Hooker
6. Jonathan Allen
7. O.J. Howard
8. Taco Charlton
9. Marshon Lattimore
10. John Ross

Well 1 thru 8 is all we need to be concerned about. 1 thru 9 would not upset me.  I like this line up.

I think with the defense being fixed in free agency.  I would love to see Howard if Fournette doesn't fall in our laps.

[MV%doe]

 

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

2. Soloman Thomas, DE, Stanford

3. Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

4. Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

5. Jamal Adams, S, LSU

6. O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama

7. Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

8. Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

Got a older thread in the draft forum on this topic.

[Confined9991]

6 minutes ago, Nails said:

April can't get here soon enough.  Simply put many agree and many strongly disagree with that.  

 

I think this guy is seriously overrated, doesn't even attempt to stop the run,, will get punished big time in the nfl 

[X-Clown on 1]

Garrett

Adams

Thomas

Fournette

Allen

Hooker

Howard

Barnett

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 minutes ago, Nails said:

April can't get here soon enough.  Simply put many agree and many strongly disagree with that.  

 

Simply put anyone can put the highlights up and make him look all pro.  Got that. Video almost solidifies my question.  I saw 3 plays against the run over a course of his career.  Not counting the one where the other defender stalled the play but he got credit for the push out of bounds.

Anyone got some real counter to my question other than a hype video?

Got the Pros and Cons? 

[Kevin Greene]

 

 Jonathan Allen, DT, Alabama 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 286. Arm: 33.63. 
40 Time: 5.00. 
Projected Round (2017): Top-10 Pick. 
 3/11/17: Allen is a tremendous interior pass-rusher and also causes havoc in run defense. He could end up being an interior defensive line prospect on a par with Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy and Aaron Donald. I recapped over well over 100 games in 2016, and in my opinion, Allen was the best player in college football. 

As a senior, Allen was tremendous at using his speed and strength to put a lot of pressure on the quarterback. He totaled 62 tackles, 15 for a loss, 9.5 sacks, two passes batted and one interception returned 75 yards for a touchdown in 2016. All season, Allen dominated at the point of attack. 

8/13/16: Allen played really well in 2015 with 36 tackles with 14.5 for a loss, 12 sacks, two forced fumbles and four passes batted. He totaled 33 tackles with 11.5 for a loss and 5.5 sacks the year before. Allen has some natural pass-rushing skills to him along with quickness and strength. 

For the NFL, Allen would fit very well as a speedy three-technique defensive tackle. He is very fast at firing his gap, and his speed poses a real mismatch against guards. Allen has a quick first-step, and uses that agility to transition to power. He rushes with good pad level and leverage, so he can get into a guard's chest and toss them to the side to break free on the quarterback. Allen's upper body strength to shed blocks is very impressive, especially for a sub 300-pound defensive lineman. He has the speed to beat right tackles and also uses his power to win on the edge. 

In the ground game, Allen is good at holding his own. He has developed technique and is a solid run defender. Allen has natural functional strength in the upper body and in his base to maintain gap integrity. 

In a 4-3 scheme, Allen could play end or tackle. He also could serve as a five-technique defensive end in a DTfense.

 

 Caleb Brantley*, DT, Florida 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 307. Arm: 32. 
40 Time: 5.14. 
Projected Round (2017): 1-2. 
 3/11/17: Brantley totaled 31 tackles with 9.5 for a loss, 2.5 sacks and one forced fumble in 2016. He was very disruptive with serious quickness at the point of attack. Brantley has the functional strength to shed blocks and a burst to close in a hurry. He is an effective interior pass-rusher who helps create sacks for his teammates. Sources say that Brantley is getting first-round grades and is a first-round talent. 

In the NFL, Brantley's best fit would come as a three-technique, gap-shooting defensive tackle in a 4-3 defense. Sources from 3-4 teams say there isn't a natural fit for Brantley in their scheme and he would have to be moved around. They agree that Brantley is a really good player and first-round talent. However, Brantley didn't interview well at the combine, and that could cause him to slide to Round 2. 

8/13/16: Brantley flashes a lot of potential, but just needs to get more consistent. He can be a fast, disruptive defender at the point of attack. In 2015, Brantley had 29 tackle with 6.5 tackles for a loss and three sacks. If he can get more consistent, he could easily rise with his skill set to be a three-technique who causes havoc.

 

 Malik McDowell*, DT, Michigan State 
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295. Arm: 34.75. 
40 Time: 4.85. 
Projected Round (2017): 1-2. 
 3/11/17: In 2016, McDowell totaled 34 tackles with seven for a loss and 1.5 sacks; however, he was very disruptive and put a lot of heat on the quarterback. An ankle injury cost him multiple games late in the season, and McDowell decided to skip his senior year to enter the 2017 NFL Draft. McDowell's final games weren't as impressive, and he seemed to take his foot off the pedal. 

Sources have said that McDowell has a high first-round skill set, but concerns about his motor and work ethic could cause him to slide in the 2017 NFL Draft. Team sources say that McDowell is a perfect fit as a 3-4 defensive end in the NFL. They think he has more athletic upside than DeForest Buckner or Arik Armstead, top-16 picks by the 49ers in 2015 and 2016, but the football character concerns are hurting McDowell significantly, so he could slip to the second round. 

In speaking with teammates of McDowell, they say he is generally a good guy and a hard worker. He is tough to block in practice and is a smart defender; however, some players didn't like him because he tried to embarrass them in practice. McDowell didn't interview well at the combine. 

8/13/16: McDowell was a backup in 2014 who enjoyed a breakout season in 2015. At times last season, he was the Spartans' most disruptive defensive lineman. McDowell totaled 41 tackles with 13 for a loss, 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and a pick-six on the year. He has a lot of upside to develop. 

McDowell is at his best when uses his quickness to get upfield. With his speed, he can fire his gap and achieve penetration into the backfield. After getting by guards, McDowell has a nice ability to close. With his height, he can be a little stiff and isn't great at bending to redirect, but that is typical with players of his stature. 

There are a few things that McDowell could improve in 2016. He definitely could stand to get better at using his hands to shed blocks. Doing more to get off blocks is definitely necessary for him to have success against NFL offensive linemen. McDowell could use more pass-rushing moves as he is too reliant on speed or a bull rush.

 

 Chris Wormley, DT/DE, Michigan 
Height: 6-5. Weight: 297. Arm: 33.5. Hand: 10.38. 
Projected 40 Time: 5.15. 
Projected Round (2017): 1-2. 
 3/11/17: At the Senior Bowl, Wormley had a solid, but unspectacular, week of practice. He shone in the team interviews as team sources raved about his character and intangibles. 

Wormley had 40 tackles with nine for a loss and six sacks in 2016. He improved his pass rush as a senior, plus has good length with functional strength and quickness. His best fit in the NFL might come as a 3-4 defensive end, but he also is versatile where he could be a base end in a 4-3 defense who also plays defensive tackle. Wormley had a lot of solid games, but was quiet against Ohio State and Florida State to end the season. 

9/3/16: Wormley was mostly a backup until he broke out in 2015. He recorded 43 tackles with 6.5 sacks, 14.5 tackles for a loss, one pass batted, and one forced fumble on the year. 

Wormley is a tough run defender who has some quickness and a burst to close when he breaks free. However, Wormley badly needs to develop some pass-rushing moves and improve his ability to shed blocks while putting heat on the quarterback. What Wormley does as a pass rusher in 2016 is going to have a huge bearing on how high he goes in the 2017 NFL Draft.

 

 Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 308. Arm: 31.88. Hand: 9.25. 
40 Time: 4.87. 
Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 
 3/11/17: At the combine, Adams ran fast and looked good in the field drills. Adams also had an excellent Senior Bowl where he showed impressive interior pass-rushing skills. He was superb in the one-on-ones. 

Adams could be a good second-day pick with flexibility for a 4-3 or 3-4. In a 3-4, he could play five-technique defensive end. His best position though is as a three-technique defensive tackle in a 4-3, where he could use his speed to shoot gaps. Adams struggled against the run as a two-gap defender. 

In 2016, Adams had 39 tackles with 8.5 for a loss, 4.5 sacks, one forced fumble, one interception and two passes batted. He turned in some solid play in the season opener against Clemson and continued that throughout the year. At times, Adams looked like a first-round talent with speed and size at the point of attack, but his consistency was lacking. Adams would be a beast on some plays and a ghost for other stretches. 

8/13/16: Adams had a tremendous opening to the 2015 season, but didn't maintain that level of play. Auburn also gave him too many snaps. He cooled down significantly after his hot start to the season. Adams totaled 44 tackles, 2.5 for a loss, two sacks, two forced fumbles and one pass broken up during 2015. 

Adams has demonstrated the ability to be a speedy disruptor at the point of attack with pass rush to go along with run defense. He has a ton of physical talent, but has to maintain good conditioning and not get lazy with his motor.

 

 Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa 
Height: 6-2. Weight: 309. Arm: 32.75. Hand: 9.5. 
40 Time: 5.38. 
Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 
 3/11/17: Johnson has the skill set to be a difference-maker at the point of attack. He is strong enough to shed blocks, yet has the speed to close on the quarterback. He ran slower than expected at the combine. 

Johnson needs to get more consistent and increase the tempo of his motor, but he had 7.5 sacks in 2016. The senior also recorded 55 tackles with 10 tackles for a loss and two passes broken up. 

As a junior, Johnson had 45 tackles with 5.5 tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks and one pass batted. In a number of ways, Johnson is a similar prospect to former teammate Carl Davis, who had first-round potential but slid to the third round in large part because of inconsistent effort. Johnson looks like he has a better motor and more consistent effort.

 

 Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame 
Height: 6-5. Weight: 315. Arm: 35.5. 
40 Time: 5.33. 
Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 
 3/11/17: Jones recorded 45 tackles with 11 for a loss, two sacks, three passes batted and one forced fumble in 2016, but was more active for Notre Dame than the numbers illustrate. Jones is a disruptive defender who makes plays in the backfield in the ground game as well as puts heat on the quarterback. He has versatile size for a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. Jones has a lot of potential with good size, but lacked consistency. 

8/13/16: Early on in 2015, Jones tore his MCL and went out for the season. He was having a quality 2014 season before a foot injury caused him to miss the final two contests. Jones tied Sheldon Day for the most tackles on the line with 40. Jones also had 7.5 tackles for a loss and 1.5 sacks with two passes batted. He could be even better as a junior and should form a tough tandem with Day.

 

 Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma 
Height: 6-2. Weight: 310. Arm: 33.75. 
40 Time: 4.96. 
Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 
 3/11/17: Walker worked out well at the combine, and more importantly he received medical clearance from the concussion that ended his final season at Oklahoma early. 

Early in the 2016 season, Walker played well against Houston and Ohio State. He is a quick interior defender who can put pressure on the quarterback, but he only played in four games because of a concussion before leaving the Sooners to start his preparation for the 2017 NFL Draft. In 2016, Walker totaled seven tackles with two for a loss and four passes broken up. 

8/13/16: Walker is a player who could rise. He had an impressive 2015 season with 36 tackles, six sacks and a forced fumble. If Walker can build on 2015, his stock could really rise as interior pass-rushers are always in demand.

 

 Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 312. Arm: 33.5. Hand: 10.38. 
Projected 40 Time: 5.15. 
Projected Round (2017): 3-4. 
 3/11/17: Watkins had 50 tackles with 13.5 for a loss, 10.5 sacks and four passes broken up in 2016. He was superb against Auburn in the season opener and was a very steady disruptive presence for Clemson to close out the season. Watkins dominated Ohio State in the first round of the playoffs and also played well against Alabama in the National Championship. After the season, Watkins continued his strong play with a good week at the Senior Bowl. 

8/13/16: Watkins was a tough interior defender for Clemson in 2015 and was part of the program's forceful defensive line. The junior totaled 34 tackles, 7.5 tackle for a loss, 3.5 sacks, one interception and three passes batted. Clemson has lost the other three defensive line starters to the NFL since 2015, so Watkins could see a lot more blocking attention this year. Prior to last season, he was a backup.

 

 Davon Godchaux*, DT, LSU 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 310. Arm: 32.38 
40 Time: 5.27. 
Projected Round (2017): 3-4. 
 3/11/17: Godchaux had 62 tackles with 6.5 sacks and 8.5 tackles for the season. He put together an impressive game against Mississippi State with six tackles, a sack and a critical fumble recovery. Godchaux has some speed at the point of attack and can be disruptive, but he needs to be more consistent. 

8/13/16: Godchaux was very disruptive for LSU in 2015. He totaled 41 tackles with nine for a loss, six sacks and a pass broken up during the regular season. Godchaux is fast and explosive at the point of attack, plus has a lot of potential. He could be poised for a big 2016 season. 

Godchaux has a quick first-step off the ball with the speed to shoot his gap. He can fire up the field and close on the quarterback. LSU ran a lot of stunts at times lsat year, and Godchaux was effective at looping around and getting to the signal-caller. Godchaux is at his best working up field and causing disruption in the backfield in either the pass rush or run defense. Against the run though, he could work on holding his ground against downhill runs and also getting off blocks. Godchaux could stand to get his hands more active in the ground game and pass rush as well. He also will have to watch his pad level and avoid standing up too high.