TE Adam Shaheen

[Eclipse]

Some are comparing him to Gronkowski.  Do anyone know anything about him.  Should we pick him or should we pass on him in the later rounds.

[davos]

We should pick himmmmmmm

[top dawg]

Of all the TE prospects at the Combine, he likely helped himself the most. Coming from a small school, he showed that he belonged according to Mike Mayock and others. Honestly, I've seen some writers say that he's possibly a day two pick, but more than likely he will probably go early on day three. 

He's massive! Plus, he's fast and fluid for a man of his size. Some believe that with the right coaching that he can make his mark known as a pass catcher. Now his blocking needs some work---you'd expect more from such a mountain of a TE, but you'd also expect him to be a little more raw. 

If the Panthers brass sees him as projecting well to the pros, with the Combine that Shaheen had---testing well as compared to his peers---don't be surprised if Gettleman pulls the trigger a little earlier than people suspect ( ala Bradberry).

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Of all the TE prospects at the Combine, he likely helped himself the most. Coming from a small school, he showed that he belonged according to Mike Mayock and others. Honestly, I've seen some writers say that he's possibly a day two pick, but more than likely he will probably go early on day three. 

He's massive! Plus, he's fast and fluid for a man of his size. Some believe that with the right coaching that he can make his mark known as a pass catcher. Now his blocking needs some work---you'd expect more from such a mountain of a TE, but you'd also expect him to be a little more raw. 

If the Panthers brass sees him as projecting well to the pros, with the Combine that Shaheen had---testing well as compared to his peers---don't be surprised if Gettleman pulls the trigger a little earlier than people suspect ( ala Bradberry).

This. The smaller the school/conference, the more the combine matters. 

[ncfan]

Give me that George Kittle out of Iowa over this kid

Shaheen was pretty slow. And while big, they say he struggles as a blocker


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[SeoulPanther]

40 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Give me that George Kittle out of Iowa over this kid.

Shaheen was pretty slow. And while big, they say he struggles as a blocker


 

 

Yes. Shaheen's good and i wouldn't complain but we want a guy that will compliment Olsen.

NFL.com > " Big, fast and athletic, Shaheen will immediately interest teams who are looking for size and traits. He's a poorer blocker than what might be expected for a player with his frame, but he's also a much more dangerous pass catching target. The jump in competition will be substantial and teams will expect him to become a more consistent blocker, but he's a pass catching tight end in a Y-tight end's body. Shaheen has starting potential with an ability to impact a passing game early in his career. "

Contrast that with Kittle:

CombineWalter Football>  " George Kittle, TE, Iowa  
 George Kittle was seen as a quality blocking tight end heading into the combine, but based on how he performed in Indianapolis, teams might think that he can be more than that. Kittle ran a very impressive 4.52 40 at 6-4, 247. He also posted an 11-0 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical. Kittle will certainly have front offices searching for his tape, and he may have entered mid-round consideration."

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, SeoulPanther said:

Yes. Shaheen's good and i wouldn't complain but we want a guy that will compliment Olsen.

NFL.com > " Big, fast and athletic, Shaheen will immediately interest teams who are looking for size and traits. He's a poorer blocker than what might be expected for a player with his frame, but he's also a much more dangerous pass catching target. The jump in competition will be substantial and teams will expect him to become a more consistent blocker, but he's a pass catching tight end in a Y-tight end's body. Shaheen has starting potential with an ability to impact a passing game early in his career. "

Contrast that with Kittle:

CombineWalter Football>  " George Kittle, TE, Iowa  
 George Kittle was seen as a quality blocking tight end heading into the combine, but based on how he performed in Indianapolis, teams might think that he can be more than that. Kittle ran a very impressive 4.52 40 at 6-4, 247. He also posted an 11-0 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical. Kittle will certainly have front offices searching for his tape, and he may have entered mid-round consideration."

 

I would still go with Shaheen, his blocking can be improved by coaching. He should slim down to 265, has the size to be an effetive in-line blocker reminds me of Travis Kelce.

[Ace_Aladdin]

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

Of all the TE prospects at the Combine, he likely helped himself the most. Coming from a small school, he showed that he belonged according to Mike Mayock and others. Honestly, I've seen some writers say that he's possibly a day two pick, but more than likely he will probably go early on day three. 

He's massive! Plus, he's fast and fluid for a man of his size. Some believe that with the right coaching that he can make his mark known as a pass catcher. Now his blocking needs some work---you'd expect more from such a mountain of a TE, but you'd also expect him to be a little more raw. 

If the Panthers brass sees him as projecting well to the pros, with the Combine that Shaheen had---testing well as compared to his peers---don't be surprised if Gettleman pulls the trigger a little earlier than people suspect ( ala Bradberry).

He could be a Travis Kelce type TE.

[Ace_Aladdin]

5 hours ago, Eclipse said:

Some are comparing him to Gronkowski.  Do anyone know anything about him.  Should we pick him or should we pass on him in the later rounds.

Definitely warrants more look, maybe we send coach to his pro day or bring him in for a workout.

[ncfan]

50 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

I would still go with Shaheen, his blocking can be improved by coaching. He should slim down to 265, has the size to be an effetive in-line blocker reminds me of Travis Kelce.

Size isn't everything, it's really easy to say he can be coached up.  If that's the case you would go for the workout physical freaks at the top every time. There are Plenty of guys who are big but just doesn't not have it in them to be aggressive and block,  see the Jimmy Grahams, JuliusThomas etc. He was a high school basketball player who bulked up and played college football.

 

Kittle is a straight up football player. Son of a Iowa team captain OL.  Kid has it in him to be a football player.  Aggressive blocking who plays like he means business, blocking guys better than some 300 lb OL (if you watch what little game film of his that's up on the internet, there's times where he's pancaked DEs).  His athletic about is no slouch either.  People on here are having a Boner over "that Freak athlete Njoku" 

but comparing Kittle to him the are really about the same.

Njoku 6'4 246 4.64 133 broad 37.5 vert bench 21

Kittle 6'4 247 4.52 132 broad 35 vert bench 18

 

 

 

[heel31ok]

6 hours ago, Eclipse said:

Some are comparing him to Gronkowski.  Do anyone know anything about him.  Should we pick him or should we pass on him in the later rounds.

take him... my man crush of the draft...

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

Give me that George Kittle out of Iowa over this kid

 

 

 

 

Shaheen was pretty slow. And while big, they say he struggles as a blocker


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you can teach a man to block...you cant teach a man to have great hands ...great feet ...

[SeoulPanther]

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

you can teach a man to block...you cant teach a man to have great hands ...great feet ...

But do you want the average blocker who 'might' improve with coaching, or the guy who fits our immediate needs but is not as flashy? Even if Shaheen lived up to that big play potential which is an if as a small school guy, it simply takes targets away from Olsen. And you still have no blocker unless you want Olsen to do that. Do we actually need 2 pro-bowl tight ends competing for targets? 

[ncfan]

6 minutes ago, SeoulPanther said:

But do you want the average blocker who 'might' improve with coaching, or the guy who fits our immediate needs but is not as flashy? Even if Shaheen lived up to that big play potential which is an if as a small school guy, it simply takes targets away from Olsen. And you still have no blocker unless you want Olsen to do that. Do we actually need 2 pro-bowl tight ends competing for targets? 

It's not like Kittle has bad hands.  As shown in video above making that 1 hander.  Only thing he has on Kittle is he's about 20 lbs heavier. And it's easier to teach someone to catch than to play and block with heart.  Some guys can't cut it and just timid, again example Jimmy Graham.