Revisiting Jonathan Allen at 8th pick

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, Clicheking said:

Jonathan Allen is dt point blank period, and if we select a dt with out 8th pick I will rage.

I see him more as a CJ type DE / DT hybrid.. He can play both well..

[MHS831]

we need the 3 qbs to go early.

[Swaggasaurus]

2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Thomas was the best defender against the run by a 7 point margin. That's 7 if you're keeping count.

Lol. Allen fuging destroyed against the run as did Thomas 

[chbright]

12 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Agree to disagree .. 

Of course if you're a 4-3 team you don't get a OLB from a 3-4 and play him full time at DE..

That's why i said Pass Rushers instead specific OLB or DE's.. Pass Rusher can be a DT from the inside like Warren Sapp.. 

Pass Rushers in general will always provide more value than MLB..

If you have Jpep and Luke on the board .. You go Jpep everytime.. 

Jpep v Luke agree  go jpep. If both tier 1 pep wins. I don't remember but was there another jpep when we took Luke? Doubtful, so take tier one over a reach to a second tier

[Daddy_Uncle]

I'd be fine with it. We would be able to get a great RB at 40

[ncfan]

40 times for DL dont mean crap to me

But some other items stick out

Broad jump
That can help show explosion out the gate

Allen- 108
Thomas- 126

20 yard shuttle
Shows quickness and burst

Allen- 4.5
Thomas- 4.28

3 cone drill

Allen- 7.49
Thomas- 6.95

Bench- Power
I've always said this him day 1 this fall. Thomas has the best hands out of any DL im this draft. Suh has made a living off his punch and hand strength. Thomas has the same. Thomas's favorite hobby outside of football is boxing and it shows with his powerful punch

Allen- 21
Thomas- 30


4-3 DE its a no brainer your taking Thomas



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[Swaggasaurus]

After the combine I'm intrigued to see if Thomas can rush from the edge it would be a projection that he could apply his skills to rush from the edge

[Ivan The Awesome]

Solomon Thomas. I doubt he falls now. 

[nctarheel0619]

9 hours ago, Saca312 said:

I wouldn't.

You do realize Allen is really good right? 2nd best player behind Garrett imho from the draft.

You would be wrong, because talent wise it's Garrett, then Fournette.  Then everyone else.  

[RockyTopVol]

     If he were a DT, this post might make sense. He's a DE that can push inside on passing downs. Something we absolutely need. 

I don't even care if he is a DT in our defense. He's too talented to ignore. Passing on guys like that is what can set a franchise back. Again let me remind you that we had a pro bowl MLB when we drafted Kuechly.
Still, I think Allen will be gone along with Adams and Fournette. I predict we are choosing between Hooker and Thomas.


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[Saca312]

Allen sadly won't be leaving past the 49ers and Bears with their interest in him. Both teams saying he's a real possibility for them.

[Hoenheim]

I want a real defensive end like Garrett or Barnett if we have to chose a Dlineman with pick 8.

[Yaboychris28]

Thomas would do more in our scheme than Allen imo

[5up]

No I'll pass .. Solomon Thomas the more freakish between the two we need a game changer and I see that in thomas not Allen


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