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PFF's Free Agency Preview: Carolina Panthers

TheSpecialJuan

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3 minutes ago, bobcat91 said:

My ideal FA signings would be resigning Johnson and Ginn, bring in Kalil at T, Swearinger at S, Juszczyk at FB.  Use the draft to fix other areas of need.

Swearinger should not be signed for anything above 4 million per year. He was cut loose from the Texans due to being a coverage liability and caught fire in Arizona due to a nice scheme fit. I love the man as a Gamecock, but he is overhyped right now. That said, I believe he would do well in our defense with Coleman roaming at FS, as Swearinger plays more like a SS. He can make some pretty bonehead mistakes though so the huddle better prepare thyselves if he is signed. 

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I understand the excitement behind Whitworth, but honesty the guy is 35 now, in football years that's ancient. it's like talking about how great the neighbors dog has been for the last 15 years, dog is about done.  We need a long term solution not someone that's going to be the oldest player on the team by a few years. he would be a 1-2 year rental best case and I'd rather spend time and money on someone who would possibly be a long term solution.

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2 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I understand the excitement behind Whitworth, but honesty the guy is 35 now, in football years that's ancient. it's like talking about how great the neighbors dog has been for the last 15 years, dog is about done.  We need a long term solution not someone that's going to be the oldest player on the team by a few years. he would be a 1-2 year rental best case and I'd rather spend time and money on someone who would possibly be a long term solution.

No problem. Who and where are those guys that provide a long-term solution? And make sure they can play well right now. Or are you ready to put another sub-par or rookie LT out there and just hope Cam survives. 

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Swearinger, Devin Taylor, and CJ could all be had for close to the cost it would take to get Whitworth. He's probably the best OT on the wire and could fetch $10 mil or more for one year from some teams.

After the rookie pool and re-signing/tendering our own guys, we're only going to have in the neighborhood of 9-15 million to really play with if we're going to leave any for insurance purposes, and people want to blow it all on a 35 year old Tackle? 

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1 minute ago, Toomers said:

No problem. Who and where are those guys that provide a long-term solution? And make sure they can play well right now. Or are you ready to put another sub-par or rookie LT out there and just hope Cam survives. 

There are a few options out there, while not a prestigious as Whitworth, they are much younger and have far more long term potential. Whitworth is the best OT out there right now, but my point is for how long.  Remember Mike Wahle former all-pro from the Packers that signed with carolina? he was good for 1 season, was average the next and cut after his third.  any contract we give Whitworth we cant expect him to last long.

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WOW!!

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45 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Terrible picks for targets, even our own CJ. If we sign someone like Jeffery or Whitworth, we won't have money for anyone else that will make a big enough impact. I doubt CJ is even going to be re-signed unless it is for way under what he could get elsewhere. I wouldn't pay him more than $3 mil a year, and someone else out there will probably give him twice that.

Yes ..

Jeffery isn't different from what we already have in younger forms..

If we target WR in Fa i see more slot types with reliable hands..

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Just now, Bronn said:

Swearinger, Devin Taylor, and CJ could all be had for close to the cost it would take to get Whitworth. He's probably the best OT on the wire and could fetch $10 mil or more for one year from some teams.

After the rookie pool and re-signing/tendering our own guys, we're only going to have in the neighborhood of 9-15 million to really play with if we're going to leave any for insurance purposes, and people want to blow it all on a 35 year old Tackle? 

  So you want to spend that money on a S who had one decent season. I like him, but he's still a big risk in a new system. And why would we want both DEs that don't improve anything. So in your scenario, we get a possible upgrade at S, and depth(but not really improvement) at DE. And Cam is dead.  In mine, we upgrade the bottom 5 LT position to top 5-10. With a player that doesn't require a long term contract that would keep from signing our own. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

There are a few options out there, while not a prestigious as Whitworth, they are much younger and have far more long term potential. Whitworth is the best OT out there right now, but my point is for how long.  Remember Mike Wahle former all-pro from the Packers that signed with carolina? he was good for 1 season, was average the next and cut after his third.  any contract we give Whitworth we cant expect him to last long.

   Who? I remember Michael Oher getting hurt and starting the end of 2016. That's what I remember. I don't care if he's only here 2 years. He's only getting a 2-year contract at most. Would you rather pay a clearly inferior player a 5 year deal and hope he gets better. Name these players. Not some guy with no relevance to the situation. 

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4 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

There are a few options out there, while not a prestigious as Whitworth, they are much younger and have far more long term potential. Whitworth is the best OT out there right now, but my point is for how long.  Remember Mike Wahle former all-pro from the Packers that signed with carolina? he was good for 1 season, was average the next and cut after his third.  any contract we give Whitworth we cant expect him to last long.

Talk about a flashback. Wahle was a 2005 addition. Ended up on IR in 2006 along with Wharton and Hartwig. 

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1 minute ago, outlaw4 said:

Talk about a flashback. Wahle was a 2005 addition. Ended up on IR in 2006 along with Wharton and Hartwig. 

I laugh at a lot of these guys who think they know what they're talking about but I can reference 12 year old free agency moves off the top of my head haha

#iknownothing

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9 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

I laugh at a lot of these guys who think they know what they're talking about but I can reference 12 year old free agency moves off the top of my head haha

#iknownothing

  And with all that knowledge, still no answer.

#avoidsubject

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