Compensatory Picks Announced

[Nails]

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

The guy at overthecap.com does a pretty good job of forecasting them considering he is basically reverse engineering the formula.  Here is what he said after the fact:

https://overthecap.com/evaluation-2017-compensatory-picks-projection/#more-13165

He also has a cancellation chart that sheds some light on why the picks were assigned like they were.

The declining of options definitely can be confusing.  Seems some teams are using options as a way to cut a player so that it doesn't count as a release but instead the contract expiring and the team therefore receives compensatory pick consideration for said players.  Here is an article that talks about it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/13/some-teams-are-using-option-years-to-enhance-compensatory-draft-picks/

Funny (kinda, or not), GMan himself said he didn't understand the comp pick formula.

[TheSpecialJuan]

21 hours ago, Mojo said:

The stage is set.  No reason we can't seriously improve the roster top to bottom and be right back in the thick of it.  This needs to be Gettleman's best offseason yet.  

Agree. After 4 years he has finally purged himself of previously inherited players (JStew being the exception) and their bloated contracts are now off the books. He's drafted/acquired the majority of the players on the current roster. And the one's he didn't acquire (Olsen, Kalil, Cam) he's decided to sign long term.

This is now truly his vision of what the roster should be.

[Panthers8969]

On February 24, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Ivan The Awesome said:

This is definitely the year to have high comp picks. 

lots of great prospects in the 2nd-3rd rounds (haven't looked so much in the 4th but players will fall too). I don't get this into the draft eery year, but certainly seems like one of the deepest in recent years. Hopefully DG shows us some more of the Gettlemagic!

[Fox007]

21 hours ago, Nails said:

Funny (kinda, or not), GMan himself said he didn't understand the comp pick formula.

You're that easy to fool yea?

I definitely believe Hurney had no damn idea but there are plenty of GMs out there who obviously know how to work the system as they consistently get good comp picks....you believe this to honestly be random?

Like any GM or personnel of any type is going to come out and say poo like "Yea we're really working those stupid NFL guys over lulz...if only they knew that we knew eh buddies eh"

[Reebis21]

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Yeah, the 49ers seem primed to go for a shiny new QB, whether it's through FA or the draft. I think it'd be pretty hard to pry away their elite starting LT.

[Nails]

11 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

That's why it may take a 2nd round pick (although I still demand a day 3 pick back as well).  Also why it pays to be picking higher than the Vikings, Giants, Broncos, and Seahawks, etc. in every round.

Staley missed games last year too with a hamstring so it's not like even he is 1,000% foolproof.  But why wouldn't the hopeless 49ers take a day 2 pick when they themselves could then sign a guy like Clady to stopgap their hopeless selves for far less?

[Nails]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, the 49ers seem primed to go for a shiny new QB, whether it's through FA or the draft. I think it'd be pretty hard to pry away their elite starting LT.

They, themselves, at this point in their franchise, will never get value out of him = what the 40 overall pick in 2017 would give them.  If they're that stupid to not see that and demand more then screw them, and we go with one of the other options, while kicking their @ss for the next 5-10 years as the doormats they have become.

[LinvilleGorge]

The Falcons were a 4-12 team just a couple seasons ago. Things can change very quickly in the NFL. Just because the 49ers are trash now doesn't necessarily mean they will be in a couple of seasons. If they can get a good QB they could get things turned around very quickly, but they need to protect that QB... a lesson the Panthers evidently are still struggling to grasp.

[AU-panther]

21 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

totally agree.  Especially if they go with a rookie QB it is hard to quantify how much a quality LT is worth. 

Even if they were willing to take a 3rd for him, how many other teams would be willing to do that?  I would guess a good many.  At that point the 3rd might not be enough.

 

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Falcons were a 4-12 team just a couple seasons ago. Things can change very quickly in the NFL. Just because the 49ers are trash now doesn't necessarily mean they will be in a couple of seasons. If they can get a good QB they could get things turned around very quickly, but they need to protect that QB... a lesson the Panthers evidently are still struggling to grasp.

Look at how quickly Dallas turned it around.

[Nails]

12 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Look at how quickly Dallas turned it around.

Bad example.  Dallas was a division winner and a controversial play from the NFCCG in 2014-2015.

The 49ers have experienced a literal historic gutting of their roster and front office since 2013-2014.  Staley doesn't deserve it, and it WON'T be turned around overnight.  They could use all the high draft picks they could get.

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Enjoy this one guys. I have a feeling we won't be getting a comp pick next year.  Too many holes to fill in FA. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

58 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

Enjoy this one guys. I have a feeling we won't be getting a comp pick next year.  Too many holes to fill in FA. 

 

Fine with me. I want to put the best possible team on the field that we can. To hell with handicapping yourself in the meantime with the hope of benefiting down the road in the way of a comp pick. Just focus on building the best roster that you can and let the comp picks come when they do.