Is nobody else thinking "why are they trying to trade Lamb so bad"??

[WOW!!]

I don't get it.. He should actually be starting getting some development attention from the coaching staff.. Don't trade him give him more minutes and a little leway with mistakes..

Other than Kemba he is the only player on the team with star quality and traits..

Everybody else on this squad are role players who are getting overpaid..

Kemba and Lamb are actually getting underpaid and Lamb is under used..

I'm really starting to hate Cillford dumbass coaching decision and Cho as a GM completely..

[rico6]

Clifford's the same guy that basically shunned and ousted Biyombo because aside from excelling at everything we desperately need at Center he couldnt develop a back to the basket repertoire. Now Biyombo has his place in playoff history for having the most rebounds in a single playoff game and basically willed that Raptors team to 7 games.

But hey, at least (by his own admission) the team is moreorless built as he has requested now.

And I agree, Lamb has consistently outperformed Belinelli by all facets of gameplay sans 3pt % yet receives significantly less gameplay. I guarantee Lamb would have more suitors if we at least gave him more burn. 

If anything, I wish we had Brogdon who's a ROTY candidate.

 

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Clifford's the same guy that basically shunned and ousted Biyombo because aside from excelling at everything we desperately need at Center he couldnt develop a back to the basket repertoire. Now Biyombo has his place in playoff history for having the most rebounds in a single playoff game and basically willed that Raptors team to 7 games.

But hey, at least (by his own admission) the team is moreorless built as he has requested now.

And I agree, Lamb has consistently outperformed Belinelli by all facets of gameplay sans 3pt % yet receives significantly less gameplay. I guarantee Lamb would have more suitors if we at least gave him more burn. 

If anything, I wish we had Brogdon who's a ROTY candidate.

 

If you look at the efficent per minutes played he is killing Batum..

Batum or MKG should be on the bench.. And  Lamb should be starting..

Honestly Rico I'm done blaming players. Clifford is starting to piss me off..

MkG will never be good at offense because you only run spot jumpers and iso plays from 1 side of the court for him and not many at that... No post ups.. no iso from the top.. 

Lamb and MKG need 1 season where they can play without fearing being bench or not used for mistakes and you run some offense thru them..  

Then you can see what you have.. 

[Mr. Miagi]

5 hours ago, WOW!! said:

I don't get it.. He should actually be starting getting some development attention from the coaching staff.. Don't trade him give him more minutes and a little leway with mistakes..

Other than Kemba he is the only player on the team with star quality and traits..

Everybody else on this squad are role players who are getting overpaid..

Kemba and Lamb are actually getting underpaid and Lamb is under used..

I'm really starting to hate Cillford dumbass coaching decision and Cho as a GM completely..

Bc the coaches can't find a way to play him correctly. They're doing Lamb a favor: we suck at coaching so we're letting you go. 

[Mr. Miagi]

4 hours ago, WOW!! said:

If you look at the efficent per minutes played he is killing Batum..

Batum or MKG should be on the bench.. And  Lamb should be starting..

Honestly Rico I'm done blaming players. Clifford is starting to piss me off..

MkG will never be good at offense because you only run spot jumpers and iso plays from 1 side of the court for him and not many at that... No post ups.. no iso from the top.. 

Lamb and MKG need 1 season where they can play without fearing being bench or not used for mistakes and you run some offense thru them..  

Then you can see what you have.. 

MKG needs 1 season to play without fearing he'd be bench? The fool was the no.2 pick. He's going into every season knowing they won't bench his ass. He just got paid for being such a high pick. 

[Manos]

Clifford has some good qualities but developing players and quality rotations are not among them. I don't know if benching MKG and starting lamb is the answer but Lamb needs more playing time. Is there any chance MKG could defend NBA 4s on a nightly basis?

If so you could have potential starting lineup of
Kemba
Lamb
Batum
MKG
Zeller

Offensively it makes us better I think. Defensively I'm not sure, probably slightly worse.

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[Eazy-E]

37 minutes ago, Manos said:

Clifford has some good qualities but developing players and quality rotations are not among them. I don't know if benching MKG and starting lamb is the answer but Lamb needs more playing time. Is there any chance MKG could defend NBA 4s on a nightly basis?

If so you could have potential starting lineup of
Kemba
Lamb
Batum
MKG
Zeller

Offensively it makes us better I think. Defensively I'm not sure, probably slightly worse.

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It's funny you mention that line up. It is the line up we had on the floor against the Raptors when we dominated them in the 3rd quarter. Only difference was Frank was in for Cody since he's injured. Cliff then subbed in Marco for Nic and towards the end of the third took lamb out and gave Graham like 4 minutes for some fuging reason. Then in the forth he went back to Marvin, Nic and Marco. They proceeded to brick everything they put up and we went on to blow a 17 point lead and lose the fuging game.

I've said it numerous times that Clifford has lost us a ton of games because of his shitty rotations and his love of veteran players. There is no reason with the injures to our bigs and Marvin's struggles that Wood hasn't seen any minutes. Mike Tobey got more burn then him on a 10 day contract FFS.

I know many of you blame Cho and what not but this roster has talent and proved it for half of this season and last year. (Injures suck but they give you a chance to see what you have in your young guys but Clifford doesn't give them a chance) Clifford is the main issue imo. He's too fuging stubborn a la Ron Rivera and the main reason this team loses so many close games. When Marvin is shooting 20% you can't afford to play him 35 to 40 minutes a game unless you are trying to lose. Hey maybe we are tanking.

 

[Zaximus]

It's time for the Cho experiment to end.  I also think Clifford may need to move on if we get a new GM as well.   Clifford to me is a John Fox type coach, a decent coach for middle of the road goals but not someone to take you to the top.    There may not be anyone available better at the time but I'm not sure he's the best for us long term.

I'm still bad that we let Biz go when we could have at least kept him for cheap last year, I think with him we could have beat Miami last year.    The team needs a defensive presence and welp, we let him walk away.    

[CPF4LIFE]

I been saying this for the longest, some guys simply need the minutes and experience to expand there game. Clifford to strict of a coach it's amazing how we have developed anybody on this team. 

[Mr. Miagi]

4 hours ago, Zaximus said:

It's time for the Cho experiment to end.  I also think Clifford may need to move on if we get a new GM as well.   Clifford to me is a John Fox type coach, a decent coach for middle of the road goals but not someone to take you to the top.    There may not be anyone available better at the time but I'm not sure he's the best for us long term.

I'm still bad that we let Biz go when we could have at least kept him for cheap last year, I think with him we could have beat Miami last year.    The team needs a defensive presence and welp, we let him walk away.    

Cho should've been let go before the season. MJ is a stupid owner who loves mediocrity Bc he cares to much about selling tickets. 

The fans will packed the damn arena if his damn ass put qualities on the court! He's def not a business man you can tell. 

MJ needs to hire the designer of his sneaker as GM. 

[Omega Atrocity]

I love Jeremy Lamb, probably irrationally so

[WOW!!]

13 hours ago, Mr. Miagi said:

MKG needs 1 season to play without fearing he'd be bench? The fool was the no.2 pick. He's going into every season knowing they won't bench his ass. He just got paid for being such a high pick. 

There were 2 senarios.. The fear of benching was Lambs part.. Mkg fear is he starts missing shots and is never used in the offense the rest of the game...

[Mr. Miagi]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

There were 2 senarios.. The fear of benching was Lambs part.. Mkg fear is he starts missing shots and is never used in the offense the rest of the game...

The man will never have a shot. That's the truth 

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Miagi said:

The man will never have a shot. That's the truth 

Not if Clifford is his coach..

It will never be pretty.. But it could get consitant with reps and confidence..