DG gonna start showing people the money?

[ecu88]

Aaaaaaah poo! We just graduated from Dollar Tree to now Five Below.

[Nails]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I'll never even think Greg fell on purpose, but that was good to lose. Picking 8th every round or picking 10th in round 1, 12 in round 2, 11th in round 3 and so on, could be very big for us. 8, 40 and 72 instead of 10, 42 and 73. It doesn't seem like a lot, but it's equivalent to the 93rd pick (a few picks ahead of our comp pick). That value would push pick 40 up to pick 31 or allow us to get the guy we want at 8 without trading up and losing our 3rd round comp.

Even more beautiful that no one likes to think he did.  But what are the odds of one of the greatest TE's in HISTORY falling like that in a meaningful game, same situation, on a bright Sunshine State day?  He knows how important that 3rd round comp value is to his goal of a Lombardi.

[Ricky Spanish]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

I understand the need to compare, but honestly, I think the guys pre-concussion worry had a heck of a lot more concussions than we know about. Comparing Luke's 2 concussions to Seau is crazy. We have no idea how many concussions Seau actually had. I don't believe the 1500 that Gary Plummer said, but concussions were part of the game before and no one worried about them. Seau certainly had more than the 2 Luke has had. Helmets are better, etc. I'm not saying ignore them, but guys like Seau stayed in games after they got them and that likely made them far worse and far more repetitive.

True, but the more studies come out, the more evident it is that guys even today are suffering from concussions on a weekly basis and not reporting it because they're just used to it happening. They think that getting your bell rung is common enough, but it is actually a concussion. So we have no idea how often these guys are actually getting concussed on a regular basis, and that's pretty damn scary. Gary Plummer might not actually be exaggerating, that's fuging terrifying. That's why I'm perfectly fine with sitting anyone out who had a head injury. 

[juliosantos]

Silatolu will be our biggest free agent signing this season

[EightyNine]

4 hours ago, thomas96 said:

 

 

Highly doubt we go after any top tier FAs but can absolutely see one of the LT options being brought in and/or a 2nd tier WR, S, DE.

 

Think we'll have a significantly better team than last year if we upgrade LT, get Fournette, S and DE on day two, slot WR mid rounds, 2nd TE in FA like Luke Willson and with continued development and playing time of some of our young players like Worley, Shaq, Butler, etc. And while last year was terrible, we were esentially 7-9 (clearly tanked the Bucs game, Cam was intentionally sloppy and Greg fell down on the 2 point on purpose) with all the injuries we had and a lot of close losses, outrageously poor refereeing against us and the SB hangover. Feeling a Denver like come back to win it all 2 years after getting stomped.

The issue I have is that he says DG has been instructed to spend...instructed by whom?  JR? He shouldn't be instructed by anyone in this matter.  Let the GM do the job you hired him to do, and if you think you can do it better, than you should hire someone else.  I am not a fan of spending for the sake of spending.  Spending does not equal good, and not spending does not equal bad.  This is on display every year when you see the biggest spenders continuing to fail.  The idea should be to spend wisely, which may require patience.  I'd rather save the money and wait for the right opportunity to spend it, than to be pressured into tying up our money and resources in overly risky investments, which only keeps digging ourselves into a deeper hole.  They key here is that you have to draft well and succeed at finding low cost guys who can be stopgaps.  I think this is the best method for sustained success.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[OldNorthPowell]

[MV%doe]

I've been trying to spread awareness. 

Numbers represent millions.

 

Rookie pool= 8

KK tag = 15

Insurance fund= 10

Panthers FAs = XX

Total cap space = 50

50 - (8+ 15+10+XX) = Not much. 

Yes numbers are rough estimate, +/- a couple million overall.

Just a warning to those who are foaming at the mouth.

I don't want to see your austistic spregging when Dave doesn't sign your dream FAs. 

[GoobyPls]

All of the last 6 Super Bowl winners have at least one coveted well known free agent. So either spend the cash or expect not to win anything. It's that simple 

 

Trying to win "only" building through the draft is a antiquated philosophy. No more dumpster diving 

[Nails]

17 minutes ago, MV%doe said:

I've been trying to spread awareness. 

Numbers represent millions.

 

Rookie pool= 8

KK tag = 15

Insurance fund= 10

Panthers FAs = XX

Total cap space = 50

50 - (8+ 15+10+XX) = Not much. 

Yes numbers are rough estimate, +/- a couple million overall.

Just a warning to those who are foaming at the mouth.

I don't want to see your austistic spregging when Dave doesn't sign your dream FAs. 

Gano, Soliai, Oher, Dickson, Anderson, Stewart, etc.= cha ching

KK tag= wouldn't be the worst move in the world, but is it the best move for us?

Insurance fund=no LT is an emergency 

Panthers FAs=JAGs at best

Rookie pool=history says we're likely to deal a pick or two

[MV%doe]

6 minutes ago, Nails said:

Gano, Soliai, Oher, Dickson, Anderson, Stewart, etc.= cha ching

KK tag= wouldn't be the worst move in the world, but is it the best move for us?

Insurance fund=no LT is an emergency 

Panthers FAs=JAGs at best

Rookie pool=history says we're likely to deal a pick or two

Of course cutting a few would add some space, but that also adds to the replacement list too. Net saving is the correct way.

Example (best case)-

You cut a player, save 2,000,000.

Sign replacement for 600,000(lowest possible contract).

Net gain of 1,400,000.

I mean sometimes you cut a player and his replacement cost more. Sometimes the replacement is cheaper, but not as talented.

There is some wiggle room since only the top 51 contracts count, 6/7 even some late 5th rounders don't count towards the cap. There's even some vet deals that allow you to pay more, but cap number is lower. Signing UDFAs, young (less than four years NFL) players don't count depending on your 51st ranked contract too. Finding guys that can give quality snaps AND don't count towards the overall cap is like finding gold. Pats and the Seahawks are great at finding gold.

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, MV%doe said:

Of course cutting a few would add some space, but that also adds to the replacement list too. Net saving is the correct way.

Example (best case)-

You cut a player, save 2,000,000.

Sign replacement for 600,000(lowest possible contract).

Net gain of 1,400,000.

I mean sometimes you cut a player and his replacement cost more. Sometimes the replacement is cheaper, but not as talented.

There is some wiggle room since only the top 51 contracts count, 6/7 even some late 5th rounders don't count towards the cap. There's even some vet deals that allow you to pay more, but cap number is lower. Signing UDFAs, young (less than four years NFL) players don't count depending on your 51st ranked contract too. Finding guys that can give quality snaps AND don't count towards the overall cap is like finding gold. Pats and the Seahawks are great at finding gold.

The top 51 rule is only for the offseason.  Once the season starts it is your entire 53 man roster, practice squad, and IR.  IR is the main reason you go into the season with some cushion. There are no guys that contribute that don't count.

Speaking of rookies their total cost is around $7.8m but they will be replacing players that are already counting towards your total cap.  Using a $500k cap cost that would be 8(#of picks) x $500k (approx. value of guys at the bottom of your roster) = $4m.  So $7.8m - $4m = $3.8 which is the amount you need to allocate for your rookies.

current cap space:   $47.4m

players 52 and 53 :      1m

practice squad:            1m

rookies:                       3.8m

cushion:                      5m

 

Total available to spend during this off season: $36.6

Short version:  We have enough cap now to sign some good free agents and resign our core type players over the next few years.

 

[The Lobo]

2 hours ago, MV%doe said:

I've been trying to spread awareness. 

Numbers represent millions.

 

Rookie pool= 8

KK tag = 15

Insurance fund= 10

Panthers FAs = XX

Total cap space = 50

50 - (8+ 15+10+XX) = Not much. 

Yes numbers are rough estimate, +/- a couple million overall.

Just a warning to those who are foaming at the mouth.

I don't want to see your austistic spregging when Dave doesn't sign your dream FAs. 

I get you, but what about cuts? Won't that add a couple mill? 

[FattyFatFat]

It's time to invest in a quality LT. otherwise it's back to finding a franchise quarterback after Cam is murdered on the field.


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