NFL Draft Film Analysis & Breakdown: Leonard Fournette

[Nails]

1 hour ago, Cyberjag said:

Gettleman has said time and again that big men let you compete.  I could see him taking Soloman Thomas or Derek Barnette even if Fournette is available.  Not saying I agree with that, but I could see it.

As for the Jaguars, I think they would be more likely to take Dalvin Cooke.  They need a playmaker to help Bortles, and Cooke is the better fit for them.  They already have a power back in Ivory.

Barnett is my 1a to my Fournette 1b.  Equally ecstatic with both but positional value and team need would rue the day gun to head for me.

[Nails]

1 hour ago, Cyberjag said:

Gettleman has said time and again that big men let you compete.  I could see him taking Soloman Thomas or Derek Barnette even if Fournette is available.  Not saying I agree with that, but I could see it.

As for the Jaguars, I think they would be more likely to take Dalvin Cooke.  They need a playmaker to help Bortles, and Cooke is the better fit for them.  They already have a power back in Ivory.

PS Ramczyk remains a dark horse for that reason.  I want experience and reliability at LT NOW and that doesn't come with a rookie with an injury.  But maybe we really do sign Berry, DJax, JPP, and the other teams with LT's and no hope drive too hard a bargain, leaving us with no real answer in late April.

[Saca312]

41 minutes ago, Nails said:

Barnett is my 1a to my Fournette 1b.  Equally ecstatic with both but positional value and team need would rue the day gun to head for me.

I'll probably do some analysis on Barnett later, but right now I think he has the lowest ceiling against guys like Charlton and Thomas. 

I'll give he is the most NFL ready of the DEs and peaked early, but he doesn't have the appealing size to take his game to the next level. 

 

[Guest Lasus83]

I'll probably do some analysis on Barnett later, but right now I think he has the lowest ceiling against guys like Charlton and Thomas. 

I'll give he is the most NFL ready of the DEs and peaked early, but he doesn't have the appealing size to take his game to the next level. 

 

The thing is, about Barnett, is that he possesses the intangibles that cannot be taught.

He is an effort guy, a passion guy and a leader.

He is exactly what we lost when Hardy left (remember the Kraken, the facepaint, the feeling that we have an insane person on the line), and to a lesser extent, Norman.

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[Saca312]

Just now, Lasus83 said:

The thing is, about Barnett, is that he possesses the intangibles that cannot be taught.

He is an effort guy, a passion guy and a leader.

He is exactly what we lost when Hardy left (remember the Kraken, the facepaint, the feeling that we have an insane person on the line), and to a lesser extent, Norman.

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He puts his full effort. I'm not doubting he'll be productive. I'm just not seeing him becoming a name for himself and dominating.

I mean I originally was rooting for the kid and thinking he'd be a great fit. But looking at his measurables saddens me, because not all monster size DEs have his intelligence, and he doesn't have the dominating measurables.

He's going to be a good DE. He just won't be that explosive DE that will dominate in the NFL like he did in college. He'll get stuff done because he's sound mentally, but I can't see him having multiple double digit sack seasons.

I do hope I'm wrong, because I really like the kid. 

[Guest Lasus83]

He puts his full effort. I'm not doubting he'll be productive. I'm just not seeing him becoming a name for himself and dominating.

I mean I originally was rooting for the kid and thinking he'd be a great fit. But looking at his measurables saddens me, because not all monster size DEs have his intelligence, and he doesn't have the dominating measurables.

He's going to be a good DE. He just won't be that explosive DE that will dominate in the NFL like he did in college. He'll get stuff done because he's sound mentally, but I can't see him having multiple double digit sack seasons.

I do hope I'm wrong, because I really like the kid. 

Hell, I hope GMs agree with you and he slips to the 20s... so we can trade up and pick him.

Trade 2.8 and 3.8 for a 20s pick... Draft goes:

1. Fournette
1b. Barnett
3 comp. Leggett
4. Rod Johnson/Tankersley/Garcia/Pocic

I'm gonna go towel off now.

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[Guest Lasus83]

Hell, I hope GMs agree with you and he slips to the 20s... so we can trade up and pick him.

Trade 2.8 and 3.8 for a 20s pick... Draft goes:

1. Fournette
1b. Barnett
3 comp. Leggett
4. Rod Johnson/Tankersley/Garcia/Pocic

I'm gonna go towel off now.

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Oooor...

Trade next year 1st, which we all know will be 1.32 anyway aaaaand trade up with 2.8 and 3.8... have 3 1sts.

1. Fournette
1b. Barnett
1c. Howard
3 comp. Rod Johnson
4. Tankersley
5. Pocic

Aaaaand I'm spent.

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[Nails]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

He puts his full effort. I'm not doubting he'll be productive. I'm just not seeing him becoming a name for himself and dominating.

I mean I originally was rooting for the kid and thinking he'd be a great fit. But looking at his measurables saddens me, because not all monster size DEs have his intelligence, and he doesn't have the dominating measurables.

He's going to be a good DE. He just won't be that explosive DE that will dominate in the NFL like he did in college. He'll get stuff done because he's sound mentally, but I can't see him having multiple double digit sack seasons.

I do hope I'm wrong, because I really like the kid. 

I think you're wrong (he is only 20 and will grow after all), but if he goes to the Saints like multiple mocks predict, I hope you're right!!

[Saca312]

3 hours ago, Nails said:

I think you're wrong (he is only 20 and will grow after all), but if he goes to the Saints like multiple mocks predict, I hope you're right!!

That's true. I personally feel his potential frame is not that high, but he does have room to grow.

He's just not the type of guy to build up to a monster. If we get him, I hope I'm proven wrong though.

[Ace_Aladdin]

20 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Nice write up. I really hope he's there at 8

 

18 hours ago, Krovvy said:

The Jaguars should take him.

 

18 hours ago, X-Clown on 1 said:

If we keep running a zone read style run game, Fournette will have all his weaknesses thrusted into the spot light.  If he can line up 8 yards deep, ala Adrian Peterson, he'll be the back everyone expects him to be. 

 

This has to be one of the  worst game to criticize Fournette espeically with a QB who couldnt throw the ball for damn & while everyone is playing to stop the run. Just look at the difference in production after LSU made the QB change.

[Hoenheim]

Everyone on this board is going to throw a rage fit when Fournette is available at 8 and Gettleman picks Tabor , Humphrey, or Lattimore. Because its looking like the #1 CB in the draft will be there when we pick and he's probably salivating at the chance of getting another top shelf CB to go opposite Bradberry. And honestly that wouldn't be a terrible move even though I'd still want Fournette more.

[Panthers8969]

38 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Everyone on this board is going to throw a rage fit when Fournette is available at 8 and Gettleman picks Tabor , Humphrey, or Lattimore. Because its looking like the #1 CB in the draft will be there when we pick and he's probably salivating at the chance of getting another top shelf CB to go opposite Bradberry. And honestly that wouldn't be a terrible move even though I'd still want Fournette more.

I have a feeling jets will take lattimore, if not a qb(still a good chance of that I guess). 

 

Anyways seems like a great write up op buts it's 3:30 and I really need to go to bed lol 

[csx]

6 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

 

 

 

This has to be one of the  worst game to criticize Fournette espeically with a QB who couldnt throw the ball for damn & while everyone is playing to stop the run. Just look at the difference in production after LSU made the QB change.

He actually played well the first 2 games. 6ypc is nothing to be ashamed of against a team like Wisconsin.

The bad QB play the first 2 games didn't seem to have any affect on his performance statistically. Both were good games for him

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On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 1:52 AM, X-Clown on 1 said:

If we keep running a zone read style run game, Fournette will have all his weaknesses thrusted into the spot light.  If he can line up 8 yards deep, ala Adrian Peterson, he'll be the back everyone expects him to be. 

I can totally see us drafting him and then neutering him with our read option bs.