Christian Mccaffrey is a more logical choice

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

With McCaffey you are getting a guy who is only a junior in college and he isn't close to how big he will be once he gets into an NFL regimen. He would likely put on 10-15 lbs with little drop off in speed. He won't start day 1 but then again neither did Butler or Thompson. Everyone wants a serious upgrade on offense and frankly this would be it. He could play running back and do that well and be awesome on screens and dumpoffs. He is a threat to take it to the house every time he touches the ball. If we take a safety in free agency don't be surprised if he is our pick. Just saying....

I don't think that you can count on him bulking up. Some do, some don't. I would think that his dad already has him on an NFL regimen. Plus, he is no more of a threat to take it to the house than Fournette or Cook. Fournette already has the size and speed. McCaffrey is clearly the better receiver (not that Fournette can't develop that part of his game).

If Fournette, Cook and McCaffrey are available, then Fournette is the most logical choice in my opinion.

[Captain Obvious]

In a draft full of RB prospects, if  Mccaffrey is the pick at 8 then that will be the straw that broke the camel's back with me. I will assume the front office is partaking of hallucinogenic drugs.  My fan card will be turned in.

[t96]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Just because he's a returner doesn't make him the more logical choice. The more logical choice is an every-down power back, like Fournette. He would be the future replacement for Stew. 

If we take Fournette he'd be the immediate replacement for Stew. Stew would either be cut or if he took a pay cut would be second fiddle to Fournette. Stew can still play but he's lost a step and gets injured every other game. I have a feeling we double dip at HB this draft. Get Stew's replacement in the first couple days and take a chance on another to be depth on day 3.

[t96]

15 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I don't think that you can count on him bulking up. Some do, some don't. I would think that his dad already has him on an NFL regimen. Plus, he is no more of a threat to take it to the house than Fournette or Cook. Fournette already has the size and speed. McCaffrey is clearly the better receiver (not that Fournette can't develop that part of his game).

If Fournette, Cook and McCaffrey are available, then Fournette is the most logical choice in my opinion.

I agree. I honestly wouldn't even want Cook or McCaffrey at 40. Value is good there but those two just don't really fit on our team. Fournette is the guy. As far as a HB goes for our first two picks, it's Fournette or bust in my opinion. If he's gone before 8 or somebody we like more like Adams or something is also there then I would bet we target HB at one of our 3rd rounders.

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

If we take Fournette he'd be the immediate replacement for Stew. Stew would either be cut or if he took a pay cut would be second fiddle to Fournette. Stew can still play but he's lost a step and gets injured every other game. I have a feeling we double dip at HB this draft. Get Stew's replacement in the first couple days and take a chance on another to be depth on day 3.

As I pointed out in another post, Rivera isn't referring to Stew in the past tense. I think that some are underestimating Stew's running ability and understating Stew's blocking ability. He may end up being replaced, but the job isn't going to be handed to his replacement on a silver platter.

[gmonjimbo]

McCaffrey is a complimentary back as say a Dion Lewis, Darren Sproles, or Danny Woodhead that adds the versatility to your offense at a whole but if you pick a RB at 8 you expect  300 carries, 1500 yard runner. I would love to combine Fournette with a running back in the mold of McCaffrey. 

[t96]

Just now, top dawg said:

As I pointed out in another post, Rivera isn't referring to Stew in the past tense. I think that some are underestimating Stew's running ability and understating Stew's blocking ability. He may end up being replaced, but the job isn't going to be handed to his replacement on a silver platter.

I wasn't insinuating that it would be. Fournette would blow Stew out of the water here in camp and preseason and would earn the large majority of snaps. If we draft Fournette and Stew remains ahead of him then I think I'll come around and think there's something to your point about Rivera not playing deserving younger players, in favor of vets. But I highly doubt that would happen if Fournette is the pick. More likely DG takes it into his own hands and cuts Stew.

[mc52beast]

No tackle worth taking in the 1st unless someone flashes at the Combine, Fournette is being called a once in a generation rb, being compared to AP... would be shocked if he's there at 8 and Dave passes on him.

[Udogg]

33 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

With McCaffey you are getting a guy who is only a junior in college and he isn't close to how big he will be once he gets into an NFL regimen. He would likely put on 10-15 lbs with little drop off in speed. He won't start day 1 but then again neither did Butler or Thompson. Everyone wants a serious upgrade on offense and frankly this would be it. He could play running back and do that well and be awesome on screens and dumpoffs. He is a threat to take it to the house every time he touches the ball. If we take a safety in free agency don't be surprised if he is our pick. Just saying....

I don't see it.  I don't think his speed is elite, ie threat to take to the house every time he touches the ball. As far as 10-15 extra pounds, maybe?  It's not like he didn't have an NFL father and probably had a nutritionist by the time he 16 years old.  I think he is a good all around player, but I think you are over estimating his athleticism in comparison to other NFL level players.  His ability to catch the ball shouldn't be ignored but looking at the defenses the our division, they are all getting faster. I don't see him as a huge upgrade at the RB position. Fournette in comparison is elite in both size and speed.  If it's a top 10 pick it would seem like a waste to pick McCaffrey. Now if we are talking into second round then by all means, but if we are talking 1st round?  Can't see it. 

[rico6]

8 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

I wasn't insinuating that it would be. Fournette would blow Stew out of the water here in camp and preseason and would earn the large majority of snaps. If we draft Fournette and Stew remains ahead of him then I think I'll come around and think there's something to your point about Rivera not playing deserving younger players, in favor of vets. But I highly doubt that would happen if Fournette is the pick. More likely DG takes it into his own hands and cuts Stew.

Cutting Stew would be counterproductive imo, continue to kick his tires until hes shown that he's done then plug in Fournette full-time, in the meantime their splits definitely should be 60-40 until Fourn is deemed ready.

[t96]

Just now, rico6 said:

Cutting Stew would be counterproductive imo, continue to kick his tires until hes shown that he's done then plug in Fournette full-time, in the meantime their splits definitely should be 60-40 until Fourn is deemed ready.

Fournette is beyond ready right now. You don't draft a player #8 to have him on the bench, and you especially don't draft a running back #8 to have him play second fiddle. If we take Fournette and Stew won't take a paycut to be his backup then the only option is to cut him. Paying him as much as we are is counterproductive, whether we draft Fournette or not. If we take Fournette, we aren't going to be paying Stew that much to be his backup.

 

Think about this... We could save $6M by cutting Stew...That's enormous. I honestly can't see DG keeping him at the cap hit when he could save $6M, regardless of whether we get somebody else in the draft or FA. Stew won't make much elsewhere though and seems to love being a Panther so I think a pay cut is in the works.

[rico6]

4 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Fournette is beyond ready right now. You don't draft a player #8 to have him on the bench, and you especially don't draft a running back #8 to have him play second fiddle. If we take Fournette and Stew won't take a paycut to be his backup then the only option is to cut him. Paying him as much as we are is counterproductive, whether we draft Fournette or not. If we take Fournette, we aren't going to be paying Stew that much to be his backup.

 

Think about this... We could save $6M by cutting Stew...That's enormous. I honestly can't see DG keeping him at the cap hit when he could save $6M, regardless of whether we get somebody else in the draft or FA. Stew won't make much elsewhere though and seems to love being a Panther so I think a pay cut is in the works.

Definitely. I should've led  my response that id be ok with keeping Stew ONLY if he takes a salary cut. 

[Snake]

Im just saying if we are looking at logic. Cory Davis or Mike williams is a lock. Both are complete ERs that catch anything in there zip code. Our slot problem would be solved and we would have less worry about replacing Olsen. RIbs this year are good and deep so,finding a guy in later rounds is def possible.

[Hoenheim]

By that logic there's also alot of WR , DB, and DE depth in the draft.