But not at 8...

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

A lot of Draft position worth charts went out the window with the Rookie Salary cap.  draft position mattered a lot more when for example drafting a QB top 10 could mean a $50M commitment but one at 40 could mean $15m.  A lot of people, especially in the media still haven't caught on to this because they are used to doing predraft evaluations the same way that they have been doing for years.  But when your total rookie cap hit year in and year out is going to be between $10-$15m a year, it doesn't really matter who you draft or where just as long as they are the person you need.

Truth. It sank into me back in 2013 when two guards went in the top 10. Ironically, one of those guards was a complete bust and the other a major disappointment that could be argued to be a bust.

[Saca312]

2 hours ago, stirs said:

 More importantly, did anyone here even mention Bradberrys name before the draft. 

I'll give this guy the credit of finding Bradberry as a prospect while everyone else never expected it. Although he disagreed with where Gettleman picked him, I think he now would say it wasn't as much of a reach as he originally thought.

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James Bradberry - CB - Samford,  Another small school guy.  Looks great in zone, but needs much work on press coverage.  Very long corner that looks the part but has issues with footwork.  Not very physical preferring to lower his head on contact and doesn't drive through target. 

I think we can safely say he's definitely fine with press coverage after the 2nd Saints game, and he's certainly well on his way to being great.

[AU-panther]

3 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

The combine means nothing.

Njoku > Howard

I mean, anybody who has watched college football this season knows who the best TE between the two is, and it ain't Howard. Njoku consistently got behind safeties and beat linebackers. There's a great breakdown on him on youtube and he outshines Howard in almost every category.

Sorry, I'm not on the hypetrain for Howard just because he obliterated Clemson's defense.

It will be very interesting to see who goes first.  I've seen both ahead of the other based on which mock.  Personally I think Njoku might be more explosive but Howard might be more complete if you factor in blocking, but maybe no,I haven't watched Njoku a tremendous amount.  Also it will be interesting to see how he (Njoku) measures at the combine.

As far as the original point of this thread I think some people get a little too caught up with the "not at 8" deal.  Most people could probably name 4-5 guys that should go top 8 but after that you would probably get 10 different answers for the next 4 spots.

Also the further you get in the draft the larger the variance I would think you have between how teams have the players ranked.  I would think players 1-5 would be a lot more similar amount teams then 10-15. 

 

[shaqattaq]

Dave Gettleman doesn't give a french fried fug what I think! Nor should he. If DG thinks that he need sto trade up in the second to grab Funchess, who am I to argue. Same thing this draft. If he wants to grab a TE or LT at 8, and they're on top of his list, I'm sure he has done more homework than I have.  

[Soul Rebel]

I like Njoku and Howard, but think Howard is a better fit here. Njoku is a higher upside guy that we haven't seen all of his potential yet. He's much more of a receiver than blocker, but I also think Howard wasn't asked or allowed to showcase his receiving abilities at Alabama week in and week out. If we are looking for a complete TE that can play beside Olsen and eventually takeover the thrown, I think Howard is our guy. 

If we ended up with Njoku somehow (not at 8), I'd be happy with that too. I just think Howard fits our scheme better.