Mike Greenberg has Cam's back more than Ron Rivera

[Johnny Rockets]

44 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

I do not understand this owner or coach...Why would you pick Cam Newton as your Qb when you knew he was already a hot topic and not a positive hot topic..Pick him and then not support him in no type of way..Its not like Cam chose the Panthers but the panthers chose him...Cam has been a model citizen but no support from his owner nor coach...I can not include Gettlemen because he was not here when Cam was picked and he does defend Cam to some degree.

Not support him in no type of way? That is far from the truth but many people are blind to that because Ron isn't acting a fool about it like a currently unemployed Rex Ryan would. All indications are that he handles this in a professional manner but some people chose not to see that. It's easier to say "No support whatsoever from his owner and coach". 

He defended him multiple times publicly after the Superbowl and in the offseason about the SB fumble and press conference:

Here is just one example...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-ron-rivera-emotion-super-bowl-press-conference-mvp-millennial-032316

The veteran coach and former player said he understood the sentiment but also believes there’s an imbalance in the coverage of Newton, who does plenty of charitable work in the community.

"Nobody understands those things or celebrates those things. But do something wrong, slip up, don’t be the person everybody wants you to be and everybody gets upset," Rivera said. "How about understanding who he is? Spend a week with him and be in his shoes for a week and see what it’s like. It’s hard. I promise you, it’s hard."

"Think about Jerry West and the way he was and how much of a bad loser he was. I mean, Mr. West was one of the most tremendous athletes ever but yet he struggled with losing," Rivera said. "So let’s all take a second to really think about this is not a unique set of circumstances. This is the true raw emotion of who he is. Let’s celebrate that, too. Let’s not pile on."

And this:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2016/03/23/carolina-panthers-coach-ron-rivera-cam-newton/82155764/

It’s hard to argue with Rivera that the setup was not ideal. And the point that Rivera made that if Newton is going to be praised for showing emotion when that emotion genuine happiness, or when it involves giving touchdown balls to children, it’s unfair for people to criticize the quarterback when he shows negative emotion.

“If this is what we anticipate getting, shouldn't we say, ‘Oh, he handled it like we thought. The young man wants to win, he didn't win and he was really truly disappointed.’ But nobody said that. Everybody was like, 'Oh I can't believe he had the hoodie.' Well, you know what he just went through a tough experience, I mean are we all going to be at our best if we go through a tough experience? We're not. So let's just take the guy that's best suited to do it, the guy that has been put up in front before and let him handle it, let him deal with it,” Rivera said.

 

Then publicly about the hits on Cam in the Denver game:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article111613952.html

“Cam is correct,” he said. “I support him 100 percent in this. I was disappointed it wasn’t called. But I get the benefit of looking up at the screen and seeing it on replay. It confirmed what I thought. It’s difficult. You’d like to see those calls made. I’d love to see our quarterback get those calls.”

Rivera said he reached out to Goodell, and that he has discussed his concerns with the league multiple times. He added Goodell responded, but he did not divulge the specifics of the conversation -- but he thinks the league has “responded appropriately.”

Rivera, who is on the NFL coaches’ rules subcommittee, said solutions that have been discussed among that group, including adding an eighth official, making referees full-time and incorporating quarterback hits into the replay system.

“We’ve talked recently about that,” he said. “Those are ongoing discussions. Again, the league is looking into that. Not just for Cam, but for all quarterbacks. My concern is for our quarterback.”

Plus, no one knows how things are handled behind the scenes which is how this should be handled....not throwing a hissy fit to the media as many people want Ron to do. 

[PanthersBigD]

It's easier for lazy posters to call a man they've never met a coward than to try to understand the complex situation he's dealing with. 

[gorillamilitia13]

This angers me.

[Darvinsun]

44 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

You realize that Ron was an NFL linebacker, right? Anyone who has ever played defense in the NFL would love to pop a QB leisurely strolling into the end zone like Cam did on that play. That include Thomas Davis, Luke Keuchly, Etc. (albeit not intentionally in the head) Cam has proved that calling out the refs is a lose/lose. Not to mention that no one knows what type of communication Ron, DG, and/or JR has had with the league regarding these hits outside of public view.


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Thats what I mean by saying you would have done it too speaks volumes when you are his coach..He shot himself with his own gun. You can not act as a player you are a coach.This was not the time to speak what he said and then turn right around and defend the refs by saying because of Cam size they ignore penalties. Both times he has sided somewhat with the opposition instead of being Cam's coach. What Ron said may be true as to the reason but thats not his job and it is not right.  As for what does speaking out does. It lets his team and fans no he is willing to go out to battle with them, not just stand there and send all the troops out to die while he watches from afar...So what if you loose the battle you may win the war.

No guts no glory!

[Johnny Rockets]

4 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

It's easier for lazy posters to call a man they've never met a coward than to try to understand the complex situation he's dealing with. 

It's ridiculous...I will never understand the Cam vs. Ron and the Panthers people that are only able to see things only from one side. The truth is in the middle but it's easier to ignore that truth in order to hold onto the false narrative that some people have built up in their heads while ignoring the facts that are there right in front of them. 

Cam has taken shots he shouldn't have, gets lots of press both good and bad because he is so polarizing which will never change. Some of that criticism has been brought on by Cam himself, some of it not. Maybe Ron could do more, but he definitely has shown support publicly for Cam and no one knows fully what all he has done. 

 

 

[Darvinsun]

9 minutes ago, Johnny Rockets said:

Not support him in no type of way? That is far from the truth but many people are blind to that because Ron isn't acting a fool about it like a currently unemployed Rex Ryan would. All indications are that he handles this in a professional manner but some people chose not to see that. It's easier to say "No support whatsoever from his owner and coach". 

He defended him multiple times publicly after the Superbowl and in the offseason about the SB fumble and press conference:

Here is just one example...

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-ron-rivera-emotion-super-bowl-press-conference-mvp-millennial-032316

The veteran coach and former player said he understood the sentiment but also believes there’s an imbalance in the coverage of Newton, who does plenty of charitable work in the community.

"Nobody understands those things or celebrates those things. But do something wrong, slip up, don’t be the person everybody wants you to be and everybody gets upset," Rivera said. "How about understanding who he is? Spend a week with him and be in his shoes for a week and see what it’s like. It’s hard. I promise you, it’s hard."

"Think about Jerry West and the way he was and how much of a bad loser he was. I mean, Mr. West was one of the most tremendous athletes ever but yet he struggled with losing," Rivera said. "So let’s all take a second to really think about this is not a unique set of circumstances. This is the true raw emotion of who he is. Let’s celebrate that, too. Let’s not pile on."

And this:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2016/03/23/carolina-panthers-coach-ron-rivera-cam-newton/82155764/

It’s hard to argue with Rivera that the setup was not ideal. And the point that Rivera made that if Newton is going to be praised for showing emotion when that emotion genuine happiness, or when it involves giving touchdown balls to children, it’s unfair for people to criticize the quarterback when he shows negative emotion.

“If this is what we anticipate getting, shouldn't we say, ‘Oh, he handled it like we thought. The young man wants to win, he didn't win and he was really truly disappointed.’ But nobody said that. Everybody was like, 'Oh I can't believe he had the hoodie.' Well, you know what he just went through a tough experience, I mean are we all going to be at our best if we go through a tough experience? We're not. So let's just take the guy that's best suited to do it, the guy that has been put up in front before and let him handle it, let him deal with it,” Rivera said.

 

Then publicly about the hits on Cam in the Denver game:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article111613952.html

“Cam is correct,” he said. “I support him 100 percent in this. I was disappointed it wasn’t called. But I get the benefit of looking up at the screen and seeing it on replay. It confirmed what I thought. It’s difficult. You’d like to see those calls made. I’d love to see our quarterback get those calls.”

Rivera said he reached out to Goodell, and that he has discussed his concerns with the league multiple times. He added Goodell responded, but he did not divulge the specifics of the conversation -- but he thinks the league has “responded appropriately.”

Rivera, who is on the NFL coaches’ rules subcommittee, said solutions that have been discussed among that group, including adding an eighth official, making referees full-time and incorporating quarterback hits into the replay system.

“We’ve talked recently about that,” he said. “Those are ongoing discussions. Again, the league is looking into that. Not just for Cam, but for all quarterbacks. My concern is for our quarterback.”

Plus, no one knows how things are handled behind the scenes which is how this should be handled....not throwing a hissy fit to the media as many people want Ron to do. 

Yes, he said those things yes he did, but he arrived at the front battle line a little too late. He should have been leading the charge instead of  behind the scenes that is Jerry's  job. He is the coach of the team he is the vocal leader. He is not going to have much clot so it does not matter. Jerry has that power. He could still go to the front office and send videos, but this topic right here player safety is much bigger than Cams press conferences, his dancing, his dress code. We are talking about a persons life, his career.  You ask Cam to got there and play hard, and play within the rules of the game and he does it. But you can not stand in front of a podium and say these hits are illegal without trying to play both sides. The party is over and ypu are just now arriving you were there but no one saw you. You were upstairs sleep came down and only 2 people were there and you were suppose to be giving the speech.Ya you were there but much too late..

[top dawg]

Ron addressed this weeks ago, people. The surprise, if it was one, was then, not now. It's a rehash. That boat has floated!  Ron said that he thought Cam was getting the Shaq treatment. How far do you want him to take it? If anyone should be talking now, it should be J-Rich.

As fans, we should objectively monitor the situation going forward and respond accordingly.

[t96]

Quit whining. Ron ripping the refs on a radio show wouldn't do anything at all to help Cam, it would just bring a small distraction to the team when he got fined. Ron's a classy guy and when he's interviewed as a head coach he has to act like one. Ron shouldn't be saying whatever is on his mind in these interviews, he should say essentially nothing, and by repeating the same line every time that's what he's doing. Saying something stupid to the press would be nothing but bad for Cam and the team. Ron's fought for Cam in the avenues in which he can do something.

[Jangler]

12 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Ron addressed this weeks ago, people. The surprise, if it was one, was then, not now. It's a rehash. That boat has floated!  Ron said that he thought Cam was getting the Shaq treatment. How far do you want him to take it? If anyone should be talking now, it should be J-Rich.

As fans, we should objectively monitor the situation going forward and respond accordingly.

We should start burning sh!t.

Is that the new normal?

[panthers55]

Mike makes his living being controversial and taking more extreme positions to gain listeners. Of course he wants his guests to make quotable remarks to build tweets about his show. And of course Rivera understands that blaming refs in public likely comes back to haunt him when refs remember what he said and have issues. Anyone believe that Cam comments against Ed last year and comments this year haven't had an impact on why he doesn't get the calls others get? You can pull out the race card or the size card but I figure the answer is simpler. If you criticize the refs in public they don't like you and it colors their judgement negatively.

Rivera, unlike huddlers who criticize his public persona, is smart enough to separate what you say in private and what you say in public. I guess that comes with age and experience. Even Cam is starting to figure that out.

 

[top dawg]

15 minutes ago, Jangler said:

We should start burning sh!t.

Is that the new normal?

Fire has always raised the bar, but a good buddy of mine says that for true change to occur here, it's going to take blood. 

[KillerKat]

Rivera needs to be fired asap

[beastson]

This was discussed and brought up by members of the Huddle months ago. 

[CPF4LIFE]

Glad I didn't watch it because I would have been that much more pissed off. 

fug Ron Rivera.